Divine scandal, Theological corruption and religious perversity orUntouchable Gods and Untouchables!

Divine scandal, Theological corruption and religious perversity orUntouchable Gods and Untouchables!

Untouchable Gods” and “touchable dual-believers”: As Indians, we have heard enough about “untouchables”, but have we ever heard about “Untouchable Gods”? No, not at all. But, it appears that the Christians and Muslims are trying to bring such “Untouchable Gods” in India.  The Christians teach Indians that Christian God could be three or one or one-in-three and so on, but the Muslims have been persisting upon the one, the only-one not more or not less!

The Christian God or Jesus Christ could be in different colours but Allah cannot be with any colour. Even, that God may appear according to White white, Black black, Brown brown and so on. But Allah is colourless. Again God can be any racial, ethnic and ideological, but Allah cannot be so! So the Partnership of Christian-Muslim combine gives a “dual” or “untouchable” nature of their Gods! However, they want to in theological company to do divine business of being-together.

They claim about their wonderful concept of eating together to advocate “toucbability”, but a Hindu woman would be removed from service wearing a nose-ring, as it could bring microbes! A priest or pastor can lick and give and believers can take, no microbes nothing. Unseen cannot do anything in such cases! Thus, we have suddenly overt-covert, explicit-implicit, open-covered, barren-hidden, naked-covered categories of “dual-believers” with “Untouchable Gods”. Their Gods are “Untouchable Gods”, “Unseen Gods”, “Unheard Gods”, “Unspeaking Gods” and “Untastable Gods”, because, they are beyond the perception of senses of man! Moreover, they openly believe that their Gods cannot help in getting reservation for the potential dalit-converts., but Supreme Court can do. Thus, we are caught between “Untouchable Gods” and “touchable dual-believers”!

Secret converts believers with hidden faith: Can a real convert have any secrecy maintained about his conversion? Having turned his mind away from the Old God to New God, how can he turn again this-side and that-side? What type of “turning” it is?

Believers with hidden faith! My God, the faith has to be hidden in mind to hold his God tight. Otherwise, he has to cry, “Oh God, Oh God, why you have forsaken me”. Immediately, the Christian partner, Muslim would jump and declare, see, your God is praying to our God only! “Eli, Eli” according to Muslim is Eli-Ela-Elahi-Elohim-Alaha-Allah and so on! Anyway, we need not worry about Eli or Allah or Christ, let them decide.

The usage of expression “Secret converts” appears to be a fraudulent one, as the so-called converts have no guts to believe either the abandoned God or embraced God. Actually, the converting Christians should feel shame about their useless and disgracing act.

V     Why then they convert and fool the weak-converts, who do not have any mental strength in godly-affairs?

V     God and religion requires conviction, confidence and belief.

V     If the converters and converts do not have such qualities, it is not only dishonor and scandal, but also cheating the God himself.

V     Can any sensible and matured believer or pious one accept such divine scandal, theological corruption and religious perversity?

Western-funded congregations: Let the poor or anybody turn to Mary, Jehovah, Allah or anybody, it does not matter in the globalization of industry and business. But it is ironical, farce and mockery to talk about western funded congregations. To claim that, “This allows them to seek opportunities beyond government sector in the booming information-technology and services industries that put a premium on the westernized outlook and English-language skills”, is again deceptive. The westernized outlook has only corrupted the Indian system, as we see so many ladies going astray.

Z    Otherwise, why a Muslim Liyakat Ali Khan should stoop down to Cyber-sex with all his IT-expertise?

Z    Why the Christian Yacob Saravanan be after so many shady women with the corrupted money, that too, swindled in the name of God.

Z    Does the western-funded congregations offer such sexy-opportunities backed with IT?

Playing double-game to fool two Gods: If the cited case of Venkatesh Gunti is a fact then that person must have been cheater of two Gods. Ironically, he proves that the new embraced or believed God is useless.

N     It is not understand why he should bastardize his conscience to be with two-congregations?

N     Why western-funded congregations failed?

N     Is it not a gambler or smuggler or criminal using two or more passports to go around and fool all?

N     Why such sinning crooks, wicked frauds and evil villains should be encouraged in the name of God and religion?

The new twist given to Conversion frauds: If a person echoes hiding his Christian faith, “The government is forcing us to lie”, what sort of Christian is he? Shame, instead of that, he can be kicked out of Christianity by a true Christian. This type of theological frauds, double-cross cross-bearers can cross anybody at any time. It is a great sin to blaspheme the Christ crucified on the cross, if at all, a Christian believes in the Christ or God. That he is maintaining “double-life” is gross manipulation of religion and he is not all religious then. His pleading or blurting out “Whatever the consequences, God will take care of us”! Which God would take care of him? The past God, present God or future God? What nonsense is it? Who is making him to lie to the government, to the God and to himself?

If the Christian God or Islamic God cannot do how Indian Supreme Court can do? Paradoxically, it is mentioned repeatedly that it has been petitioned to Supreme Court, it is currently reviewing several challenges filed by Christian and Muslim Dalits etc. , shows the super-duping theological fraud.

6      How the Supreme Court could be superior that Christian or Islamic God?

6      When the Gods, with whom the new converts or secret converts or covert-coverts rely upon, pray him openly or secretly, or at least believe him staunchly, why that the Christian and Muslim leaders go on approach the Court and Parliament with political pressure instead of God-power?

6      They unashamedly and immorally prove that the Political Power is superior to the God-power. As otherwise, the leaders who talk nonsense or fool all with all their sermons etc., must quit their bogus-life and die on the Cross!

Religious frauds depend on frauds only: Yes, the cat is out again! “Indian groups have tried for decades to win a similar exception for Christianity, which is believed to have arrived in India when St. Thomas disembarked in Kerala in the first century”. When they could not believe the Gods, why then they believe that some thing came to India exactly in the first century and so on? How that it exactly disembarked embarking everything? And it should choose only Kerala? Excellent! Already we have seen a gang of frauds – Ganesh Iyer alias Acharya Paul etc., colluded with Arulappa, Deivanayagam etc., in the case of “St. Thomas fraud”. Arulappa and Acharya Paul had been fooling with Retzinger and successful in appraising the then Pope also about their wonderful fraudulent research carried out in Tamilnadu! Shame, these guys do not bother about the High Court proceedings etc., as they perhaps, only believe in Supreme Court. They do not worry about “the Day of Judgment of God”, but in the “judgment of man”.

The Dalits – the main source of potential converts! Wonderful, at lest, they have confessed that they dealing with “Dalits” only as commodities and not as human beings! After all, they talk in globalization terminology, western-funded congregations, booming information-technology and services industries, premium on the westernized outlook and English-language skills. What more is required for the “Dalits” to be rated, treated and traded? Vey potential in deed and that too the main source, so that they can become the main source of potential converts. After assessing, considering or branding them so, why they worry about their double-life, double-act, double-cross etc?

Partnership in outsourcing – Joseph D’Souza and P. K. Ahmad Sabir: After all the globalization, westernization and industrialization have to work with God also. When God can be sold through cyber-space, why not through Supreme Court or Parliament? Definitely, the useless Gods, in the sense, as the Court and man-made law are believed, could be sold out and the main source of potentiality could be concentrated. After all these “Dalits”: have to be in a state of “duality” as has been confessed by the Christian and Muslim authorities. If they win in the Court, they can be Christians or Muslims overtly or covertly Hindus or vice versa. If they loose, no problem, as stated! So it is a game of “head or tail, we win game”. Let them play, the partnership. Only thing is the poor “Dalits” have to be outsourced to outreach!

Appeal to Westerners, Western media and Western Intellectuals: It is requested that the westerners, western media and western intellectuals be objective to the Indian issues and present the facts correctly without any bias, prejudice or pee-determined mind-setup. Try to respect the feelings of the others also. By mere propaganda or sheer media-power or absolute-influence do not try to overwhelm and overpower Indians with muscle-twisting theology or ideological religiosity. We know you can make Jesus Christ to come with AK-47 or any advanced machinery, as the missionary is ready with “liberation theology”. And of course, your Partnership may wage crusade-jihads for which the gullible, naïve and innocent Hindus are no match. Do not exploit SCs / Harijans etc., by calling “Dalits” or converting poetically as you proudly announce. If you bully Supreme Court with international power, then, what type of judiciary, we can expect? If you intimidate Indians with your economic threats, terrorize with fiscal sanctions, oppress with financial controls and suppress by all means, who are oppressed and suppressed? Do not make mockery of theorization with ideological and verbal terrorism. If you want Super Gods, Superlative Gods, Supreme Gods, please have them, but do not suppress and oppress with such Gods. Do not make our Gods oppressed and suppressed! Be honest and satisfied with your jealous, aggressive and envious Gods and we are happy with our “DALIT GODS”.

\   With such “DALIT GODS”, we continue to live as “DALIT INDIANS” and “DALIT BEILEVERS” with self-respect and honour, but we would not be “dual-believers” or “believes with hidden faith”.

\   As Swami Vivekananda proclaimed, we declare our religion and faith on our foreheads, in ears and noses.

\   Yes, every limb, blood, nerve, cell, DNA etc., would live and die with open belief – exhibited in stones and trees, hills and mountains, rivers and oceans and of course – men and animals, monkeys and elephants.

\   Do not worry about our idolatry, but try to cleanse your mind.

\   We are proud of our religion in consistent with nature – living and non-living. Be satisfied with your “theological-haves” and do not worry about our “theological-have-nots”!

This with reference to several articles appearing in internet, as my attention has een drawn my attention to them:

The Untouchables In India, ‘Untouchables” convert to Christianity – and face extra bias Yaroslav Trofimov The Wall Street Journal online

September 19, 2007

Dalits Situations in
India
Mukul Sharma Heinrich Boll Foundation
DAlits get ready for class-caste war Runko Rashidi (Posted by, as claimed) Indiainteracts
O Rama, oh Rama, You became the God and we the demons Iniyan Elango Ibid.

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VEDAPRAKASH

21-09-2007.

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3 Responses to “Divine scandal, Theological corruption and religious perversity orUntouchable Gods and Untouchables!”

  1. vedaprakash Says:

    3 Responses to “Divine scandal, Theological corruption and religious perversity or Untouchable Gods and Untouchables!”

    1. MNachiappan Says:
    Posted on November 9th, 2007

    In a recent conference held at Madurai as usual discussed “theological issues” accusing “Hindu religion” for their failures.

    A group of Catholic priests wedded to the liberation theology met to discuss ways to overcome casteism which they say has taken deep root in the Catholic church in Tamil Nadu. They however appeared to have forgotten about the looting of an Indian Bank at Tiruchi under the inspiration of “liberation theology”!

    Mylapore Bishop Chinnappa and Salesian of Don Bosco Provincial Stanislaus Swamikannu were among the priests who participated in the two day conference held in Madurai on November 5 and 6 to discuss the issue. “Dioceses, parish councils and educational institutions are riddled with casteism and Christian dalits are discriminated against,” says Father X.T. Selvaraj, one of the organisers of the conference.

    Asked whether the church supported their effort, Fr Selvaraj said, “The progressive forces in all dioceses are concerned about the trend that goes against the very essence of Christianity.” Fr J.R. Vencie said dalits were segregated in all the church activities and there were separate burial grounds for them. “Christians continue to maintain their caste identities and there are no inter-caste marriages. Even in ordinary conversations dalits are denigrated,” he said reading out from the pamphlet prepared for the conference.

    According to church sources, caste confrontations are not confined between the dalits and other intermediate communities. Every district diocese has its own peculiar problem, they say. In Kanyakumari district it is the Nadars versus the fishermen community , while in Trichy the Vellalas and Udayars function as a group against the Vanniyars. In fact Vanniyars have formed a separate diocese in this district. Sivangai district diocese is witnessing a war between Udayars and non-Udayars.

    In Thanjavur Vellalas and Udayars are against each other, according to them. Asked whether it would be possible to change entrenched attitudes of the people, especially when every community continued to maintain its identity, Fr Selvaraj said “We are making a humble beginning.” He said dalits who had converted to Christianity to gain social acceptance now felt they had been betrayed.

    “We have to remove this feeling. Christianity does not discriminate aginst anyone in the name of caste,” he said. But this totally false, as Vatica and Pope themselves promote casteism.

    To a question on why the Christians should demand reservation if they had no faith in casteism, Fr Selvaraj explained there was nothing wrong in making use of benefits of reservation for social upliftment. Why then Christ could not uplift? For him or his faithful believers, is it so heavy that only Indian government could upl;idt ad not their God? Why not Christians then renounce their God and emrace any Indian religion instead of God that fails!

    The conference discussed all aspects of casteism and passed resolutions urging all the Christians to give up their caste identities. However, caste and caste differences, as have been existing in every society of the world one form or the other, exhist in Church also.

    Let the Pope annul the bull issued to recognize caste in Indian church and then, they can talk about equality and all.

    In Bible, Jesus (though there has not been any historical one) reportedly claimed that he came to divide people. Set daughter-in-law against Mother-in-law; sons against fathers vice versa etc. He came here not to bring peace bur sword. so the liberation theologists have taken AK-47 now, just like Al-Quida etc.

    Posted on November 9th, 2007

    All this meant to wake up Hindus, but they are all snoring to glory, draped in praise by pseudo-secularists that they are the champions of tolerance !!

    We only have to blame ourselves, for the misfortune falling on us.

    ARISE, AWAKE and work towards FREEDOM from the chains of foreign occupation in our lands !

    Posted on November 11th, 2007

    The Hindus have been the most oppressed and suppressed on the earth.

    And they are the funniest species on the earth, which do not know that they are under attack by all.

    It is not even a stupor but a type of psychic-disease and it has to be studied properly and warned them about their critical position.

    Even the sacegoats blare as they understand that they are going to be sacrificed. But these cretures do not know that they are going to attacked, killed etc.

  2. Meagan Margason Says:

    I am at it again, always trying to come up something to browse about. This happens to be better than usual that is like underwater basket weaving.

    • vedaprakash Says:

      Definitely!

      At least, if you could feel that weaving, that too of a basket, that too under water, it is great!

      The Christians have been doing that, but effectively.

      When it comes out, it would be baptized!

      Or baptism is completed!

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