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EVR’s atheism, Deivanayagam’s petition, Veramani’s counter and the Judgment!

September 8, 2019

EVR’s atheism, Deivanayagam’s petition, Veramani’s counter and the Judgment!

WP 2017 filed by Deivanayagam

2017 petition heard and decided in 2019: That the petition W.P. No.28021/2017 was heard two years later and the judges to deliver judgment on 04-09-2019 has been intriguing. None reacted to the judgment or protested to remove any paragraphs from the judgment arguing that they offend their belief or so.  Perhaps, most of them are not interested at all. The duo Rajiv Malhothra and Aravinda Neelakantan[1] made much fuss about their favorite duo Deivanayagam and Devakala[2] also keeping quite! Though from 2014 onward, many Hindutwa advocates, lawyers and legal experts have been out, it appears that they do not bother such cases. Of course, they might write in their own websites and journals, read by hundred or two hundred, applause and enjoy time otherwise.

Duo vs duo

Thanthai Periyar, had advocated both atheism and self respect[3]: Emphasizing the right to propagate views questioning existence of God, the Madras High Court recently dismissed a Public Interest Litigation which sought to remove atheistic inscriptions below the statues of Thanthai Periyar in Tamil Nadu[4]. The bench comprising Justice S. Manikumar and Justice Subramonium Prasad observed that followers of Thanthai Periyar, in exercise of the rights under Article 19 of the Constitution of India, has a right to disagree with the existence of God.

There is no God, no God, no god,
Those who preached God is fool
Those who spread God Rogue
Those who pray God are Barbarians

These inscriptions below the statue of Thanthai Periyar erected all over the State of Tamil Nadu, offended Dr.M.Deivanayagam[5] who filed a PIL seeking to remove them on the ground that it is an offensive language, and against the ‘Universal God’. According to Dr. Deivanayagam, Periyar had always advocated self-respect and not atheism. He further contended that Periyar had not uttered such words offending people[6]. He contended that during his lifetime, Periyar had never uttered these words, inscribed below the statues, and it was the Dravidar Kazhagam, led by its president K. Veeramani, that had inscribed these lines[7]. A division bench of Justice S. Manikumar and Justice Subramonium Prasad said it was of the view that it was an undisputed fact that Periyar, in all his speeches and publications, from 1928, had declared that[8] “there is no God, God doesn’t exist, one who has created God is a fool”. “The propogation of the philosophy of self respect, social reform, ending caste system, equal rights and Periyar’s vision to establish a society of brotherhood can be deciphered, and according to him, the belief in God was the sole reason for the inequalities in society[9]. Speeches and expression, extracted supra, from 1928, makes it clear without an iota of hesitation that it was Periyar’s philosophy and ideology that became a self respect movement and later on, a party,” the bench said.

Atheism case, the so-called words

Periyar had declared that there is no god, God doesn’t exist, One who has created is a fool: Justice Manikumar, in his judgment, made many references to writing and speeches of Periyar and concluded that he had, in all his speeches, publications, from 1928, had declared that there is no god, God doesn’t exist, One who has created is a fool[10]. The court also observed that, people recognize Periyar as a non believer of God and the one who fought for social justice and self respect. The court said[11]: “Propagation of philosophy of self respect, social reform, ending caste system, equal rights, and Thanthai Periyar’s vision to establish a society of brotherhood could be deciphered, and according to Thanthai Periyar, belief of God, was the sole reason for the inequalities in the society. Speeches and expression, extracted supra, from 1928 and enclosed in the typed set of papers makes it clear, without any iota of hesitation, one can clearly come to the conclusion that it is Thanthai Periyar’s philosophy and ideology, which became a self respect movement and later on, a party”.

Ezra, Veeramani, Deivanayagam, Seeman together

Followers of Periyar Has Right To Propagate His Atheistic Views: The court further observed Dravidar Kazhagam Party, has every right under the Constitution of India, to fight for social justice in eradicating inequality, right for upliftment of women and downridden people, express views on religion and existence of God[12]. It further observed that divergent views on philosophy should be allowed to be expressed, and that there cannot be a prevention of freedom of expression, with permanent interest of human progress[13]. It said: “The petitioner has a constitutional right under Article 19 of the Constitution of India, to express his views on religion and existence of God, in the light of the decision of the Hon’ble Supreme Court in Lalai Singh Yadav’s case, we are of the view that the 2nd respondent and the members of the party, or followers of Thanthai Periyar, in exercise of the rights under Article 19 of the Constitution of India, has a right to disagree with the same.”

How Cristians and theist dupe Hindua 04-09-2019 judgment

Who is Deivanayagam, the Petitioner of the case?: M. Deivanayagam has been a Christian, completed M. A. Tamil fom Madras Christian College, working as a lecturer in Loyola College, done a Ph.D from the chair created by the former Archbishop R. Arulappa, that was reportedly affiliated to the University of Madras. With the publication of his controversial book, “Viviliyam Tirukkural Saiva Siddhantam,” he go some publicity. However, Rajiv Malhothra of Infinity Foundation had given undue publicity through his book, “Breaking India.” Though he never saw and met Deivanayagam he engaged certain people to get information about Deivanayagam. That is why, the information the Rajiv Malhothra group got has been confused and given full credit to Deivanayagam and her daughter Devakala. Aravinda Neelakantan, evidently collaborated for such “Deivanayagam research” making him famous, popular rather than notorious hitherto. Some persons of Hindutva groups have worked as conduits for the information exchange between Deivanayagam and Hindutwa groups. Thus, in 2017, Deivanayagam got this fantastic idea of “Universal God” and filed a writ petition.

Deivanayagam claimed ER was not an atheist

What Deivanayagam claimed in his petition: Based on the petition filed, the following points are listed:

  1. The Parliament of World Religions was held between 15th and 19th of October 2015 at Salt lake city, USA. On behalf of our trust [“Trust for the Unification of World Religions through Soulology of the Tamils”], we rented two booths to establish the existence of the Universal God on the basis of the Soulology of the Tamils and all the questions raised by the religious scholars had been answered rationally.
  2. On the basis of the invitation of the Vice Chancellor of Madras University. We have established the existence of Universal God in a rational way on 2nd January 2016.
  3. The President of Dravidar Kazhagam have advertised that, those who prove the existence of God will get a reward of 1 crore rupees and those who prove Pilliyar eats Kozhukattai will get a reward of 2 crore rupees and specifically they have to prove in the premises of Periyar Thidal. Accepting his challenge, we wrote letters to K.Veeramani. We wrote articles explaining a reply to his challenge and published in our magazines. After reading this, due to the fear of losing his challenge, he has hidden himself in his own premises at the specified time. The complete details are published in our Tamizhar Samayam magazine. We are always ready to prove the above challenge at any time.”

WP 2017 f-what veeramani said about deivanayagam

What K. Veeramani frecorded about M. Deivanayagam in his counter: What K. Veeramani recorded abot M. Deivanayagam:

  1. It is the further contention of the 2nd respondent [Deivanayagam] that the petitioner used to spend time, in the premises of 2nd respondent’s party [K. Veeramani] under the guise of an atheist and non believer of God.
  2. It is their further contention that after some time, the petitioner has started preaching that in the world, that there are two religions, one is Saivait and the other is Vaishnavait and Gods are Shiva and Vishnu respectively.
  3. The second respondent has further stated that the petitioner is having an organization called “அனைத்து தன்மான தமிழர்களது கூட்டமைப்பு”. Using this organization, on one side, he preached about Periyar and on other side, tried to achieve his individual views, by using 2nd respondent’s party.
  4. As he refused to attend his meeting, he filed this petition as a revenge.

WP 2017 f-judment last parasThe judgment and its beneficiaries and of course the affected: It is not known as to where the Hindutwa lawyers, advocates and others have gone. Thus, it is very clear that both played dubious play and mischief, just to get publicity through the petition, because, hther it is head or tail, they are the winners and the opponents or the gullible attacked [who always do not know that they are attacked] and the Judges cleverly delivered the judgment giving much publicity to EVR with the English translation that occupies 60% of their judgments. Definitely, the DK, K. Veeramany and Deivanayagam have been the most benefited with the dismissed petition and the judgment.

© Vedaprakash

08—09-2019

Atheism case, the judges who delivered

[1] Authors of the book “Breaking India,” holding that these two were responsible for all the Christa activities carried on in India.

[2] More than half the book deals with a father-and-daughter duo, Devianayagam and Devakala; have you heard of them? They are Tamil evangelists, and while I hold no brief for either of them, I find it hard to believe, as Malhotra does, that they are Enemies Number One and Two in India.

Outlook, A study on Bible-thumping activism ignores titular faultlines, concocts plots couched in anti-imperialism, GITA RAMASWAMY, 23 MAY 2011

https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/yankee-hindutva-strikes/271815

[3] Livelaw, Right To Atheism: Madras HC Reject PIL To Remove Atheistic Inscriptions Under Periyar Statues [Read Judgment], BY: ASHOK KINI6 Sep 2019 6:31 PM

[4] https://www.livelaw.in/news-updates/right-to-disagree-with-existence-of-god-147845

[5] He has been a Christian posing as a Sanyasi donnig ochre robes and writing against Hindu religion, scriptures and Gods. The Catholic chrch supports him, though, they pretend to oppose each other.

[6] The Hindu, Madras High Court dismisses plea to remove inscriptions on Periyar statues, SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT, CHENNAI, SEPTEMBER 06, 2019 00:45 IST; UPDATED: SEPTEMBER 06, 2019 11:11 IST.

[7] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/high-court-dismisses-plea-to-remove-inscriptions-on-periyar-statues-dravidar-kazhagam/article29345201.ece

[8] The Times of India, Madras high court upholds right to deny God’s existence, TNN | Updated: Sep 6, 2019, 13:19 IST

[9] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/periyar-e-v-ramaswamys-followers-have-right-to-question-existence-of-god-madras-hc/articleshow/71001704.cms

[10] TheNewsMinute, Constitution grants right to say ‘there is no god’, says Madras High Court, Megha Kaveri, Friday, September 06, 2019 – 17:41

[11] https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/constitution-grants-right-say-there-no-god-says-madras-high-court-108493

[12] Business Standard, HC throws out plea seeking removal of “no God” slogans from Periyar’s statues, Press Trust of India | Chennai , Last Updated at September 5, 2019 21:55 IST.

[13] https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/hc-throws-out-plea-seeking-removal-of-no-god-slogans-from-periyar-s-statues-119090501548_1.html

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Four years daughter was sacrificed by devout Muslim to appease Allah on Ramzan in Secular India!

June 11, 2018

Four years daughter was sacrificed by devout Muslim to appease Allah on Ramzan in Secular India!

Qureshi sacrificed Riswana-English-TOI

Secular Indians are exposed with the Christian and Mohammedans mournings and celebrations: Till 1980s, Indians of secular or of other nature did not know much about the mourning or celebrations of Mohammedan and Christian festivals and remembrances. Many times, innocent Indian used to think that “Good Friday” is a very good and auspicious day to celebrate and enjoy. But, slowly, they come to know that it is a day of mourning, as the Christian God was reportedly crucified and died on the crosss. Ramzan draws attention nowadays, because of media coverage and secular appeasement in India. Even if 12% Mohammedans in India celebrate or do not celebrate, according to their belief-system (as some events are to be mourned and no celebrated), holidays would be declared and media dump all sorts of narratives selected and thrusted on the 88% of the rest of India. In India, generally, celebrations, festivals and commemorations would be of merriment nature and not of mourning, grief and bereavement. In fact, even “Naraka caturti” is celebrated and not mourned. Under such circumstances, about Ramzan, much fuss is made. In Jammu and Kashmir context, “Ramzan ceasefire” is talked about, though, daily, jihadis kill people and get killed without any remorse. Perhaps, they do not have any Ramzan or fasting. Or they serve Allah by killing humanbeings or kafirs or Mohammedans themselves on one or the other pretext. Thus, the news of throat slitting of four years daughter by a devout Muslim father haunts and daunts Indians now.

Father sacrificed daughter - jephthah -06-06-2018

Jephthah’s sacrifice of his daughter stands in stark contrast to the Binding of Isaac in the Book of Genesis, in which Abraham was about to perform a divinely-ordered sacrifice of his son, when an angel of God directly intervened and stopped the sacrifice. So, it has to be decided by the believers to suit the theology.

Father sacrificed daughter 06-06-2018

Gruesome throat slitting of four years baby – girl child: Jodhpur Rural police on Saturday 09-06-2018, arrested a 26-year-old man, a resident of Silawaton Ka Mohalla for allegedly murdering his four-year-old daughter, a day after she was found dead at their home[1]. Nawab Ali Qureshi’s daughter Rizwana was sleeping with her parents and an 11-month-old sister on Thursday night, when she was found murdered[2]. The family, which lives in Pipar City, approached the police with Qureshi’s wife Shabana (22) submitting a complaint[3] about her gruesome killing. Considering the “sensitivities, and heinousness of the crime”, Jodhpur Rural SP Rajan Dushyant constituted multiple teams to probe the case, while teams from Forensic Science Laboratory and dog squads were also brought in[4]. In a secular India, nowadays, everytjing is interpreted differently, according to one’s convenience or ideology. “Investigation revealed the suspicious role of the father. His psychological questioning helped reveal clues. Ultimately, he confessed to his crime,” the police said in a statement.

Ramadan ceasefire - 2018

The father-killers confessed that Satan / devil possessed him and he sacrificed his daughter: The SP quoted Qureshi as saying, “Jo meri sabse pyaari cheez thi wo Allah ke paas bhejni thi (I had to offer my most prized possession to Allah).” As per Islam, the month of Ramzan is observed to practice tolerance and selflessness. Qureshi told the police that he believed the devil had entered him / Satan had taken over him[5]. India Today noted[6], “He also said that now he is in a state of shock and feels as if Satan had overtaken him when he murdered his daughter. If he were to be believed, the devil got it done and not him.” In resemblance of sacrificing a goat on Bakrid, a man slit throat of his four-year-old daughter to please Allah during Ramzan[7]. “I am a devout Muslim and love my daughter more than my life. For several days she was at her grandmother’s place and returned on Thursday. I took her to the marketplace and bought sweetmeats and fruits. In the night I took her to the courtyard downstairs, recited a kalima, killed her, and then went back to sleep upstairs,” Qureshi told the police[8]. Rizwana’s post-mortem and burial took place on Friday, 08-06-2018[9]. So the PTI news[10] is repeated by other English print and electronic media that “to appease Allah,” the sacrifice was carried on! So no secular Indian can have any right to condemn or criticize.

J K do not bother ceasefire

How can secular Indians understad that Allah can be pleased by killing four years daughter?: So far, secular Indians have been witnessing how camels, cattle and other animals and fouls are sacrificed during the “Bakrid.” No “Blue cross,” PETA or any animal loving agencies, groups or individuals comment upon r criticize such killings with blood flowing on the roads. Some times, news would be there like, the meat shops would be closed on “Mahaveer Jayanti”! That is by one day closure, all have been made to believe that all meat-eaters respect on the rest 364 bdays. An ironically, nowadays, all types flesh eaters participate and even lecture in non-violence, vegetarian and other “Jeevakarunya” type meetings, seminars and conferences. On the worst side, NV food is also served on such occasions. Many times, intellectuals and ideologists claim that “The sin of killing (of anything) is neutralized by eating it (its flesh)”

© Vedaprakash

11-06-2018

Father sacrificed daughter - jephthah -06-06-2018-2.jpg

[1] Times of India, Jodhpur man ‘sacrifices’ daughter to please God, TNN | Updated: Jun 10, 2018, 16:45 IST.

[2] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jodhpur/jodhpur-man-sacrifices-daughter-to-please-god/articleshow/64525437.cms

[3] Indian Express, Jodhpur man held for killing four-year-old daughter ‘to please Allah’, Written by Hamza Khan | Jaipur | Updated: June 10, 2018 2:47:33 pm.

[4] http://indianexpress.com/article/india/jodhpur-man-held-for-killing-four-year-old-daughter-5211282/

[5] Siasat.com, Jodhpur: Father sacrifice 4-year-old daughter to ‘appease Allah during Ramzan’, arrested, June 10, 2018, 11:21 AM IST.

[6] India Today, Man slits 4-year-old daughter’s throat as sacrifice to Allah, Rohit Parihar, Jaipur, June 10, 2018UPDATED: June 10, 2018 03:59 IST

[7] https://www.indiatoday.in/crime/story/jodhpur-rajasthan-father-slits-daughter-throat-ramzan-human-sacrifice-1256365-2018-06-10

[8] https://www.siasat.com/news/jodhpur-father-sacrifice-4-year-old-daughter-appease-allah-during-ramzan-arrested-1367122/

[9] NDTV, Rajasthan Man Allegedly Kills Daughter To “Appease Allah”, Goes Off To Sleep, All India | Press Trust of India | Updated: June 10, 2018 10:34 IST.

[10] https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/rajasthan-man-arrested-for-sacrificing-daughter-for-ramzan-police-1865056