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The sojourn of Thailand and Indonesian clergy to Tamil Nadu mosques and the Corona virus or COVID-19 implications [2]

March 27, 2020

The sojourn of Thailand and Indonesian clergy to Tamil Nadu mosques and the Corona virus or COVID-19 implications [2]

The carona carriers Thailans, 25-03-2020

Coronavirus Update: the 54-yr-old man with no travel history dies of Covid-19 in Tamil Nadu: Is such myth created that only the persons with foreign travel records or going aboard and coming back to India alone would have Covid-18 and others would not have. The man, who was the 12th patient to test positive in the state, which has 18 confirmed COVID-19 cases so far, had comorbid conditions like “uncontrollable diabetes and hypertension” and COPD [Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease][1]. The 54-year-old man had a medical history of prolonged illness with steroid-dependent COPD, uncontrolled diabetes with hypertension, says Health Minister C. Vijayabaskar[2]. Thus, the media went on publishing almost the same stuff without giving the background of the victim, because, none would get such serious disease, by sitting in Madurai far away from the Covid-19 or Carona virus spreading source-countries. It is evident that the state government tried to hide the facts by dubbing it as death not due to Corona virus or COVID-19.

Silent burial for Madurai victim The Hindu 26-03-2020

The victim was a construction contractor and the places of his regular visits including the mosque: Madurai Collector TG Vinay told Express that[3], “The patient, an employee of a construction company, was not a regular visitor to the construction site. However, he did go to the office. The places of his regular visits including the mosque, private hotel and the office have been disinfected by the corporation workers.” Without mentioning his name and other details, these details are given. The patient was rushed to a private hospital on 21-03-2020, Saturday with symptoms of acute respiratory illness. Doctors suspected viral pneumonia and he was tested for H1N1 (swine flu) before being shifted to GRH. On Sunday, 22-03-2020, when the test for H1N1 came negative, he was then tested for COVID-19. Unfortunately, the result this time was positive[4]. Yes, it was “unfortunate,” but, he could have informed the authorities immediately.

Indonesian contats to declare themselves, Makkal Kural, 26-03-2020

The victim had been with the Thailand preachers: The man had attended a wedding reception on March 9 at a city hotel, which also accommodated tourists from Thailand and Indonesia[5]. Though they have been Muslims, who have come for religious, propagandist and conversion purposes, but, on a tourist visa to circumvent the law of this land and as well as to avoid any controversy arising thereof. On March 13, the patient organised a religious meeting with preachers from Thailand at an Anna Nagar mosque, to which he was a regular visitor. Sources at the Madurai health department told Express that the group had been visiting the city as part of a tour of religious places.[6] Officials said the patient came in contact with the group when they visited a private lodge in the city on March 12 and 13. Officials said the group arrived at Madurai airport on March 12 and visited several mosques in the city. As a result, at least 60 persons had been placed under home quarantine.

16 foreigners came to Kanchipuram to spread Islam, Makkal Kural, 26-03-2020

From Erode to Madurai how the Corona virus was spread by the foreign missionaries: Two of them [the Thailand preachers] had tested positive and have been admitted to IRT, Perundurai[7]. Within hours of the death, the last rites of the 54-year-old man were completed before the break of the dawn after the body was handed over to the kin[8]. The body was shifted directly to the burial ground around 3.30am after the authorities completed hospital procedures[9]. The body was alighted from the hearse van and kept at the ground for an hour until a pit was dug. There were only four people present during final rites — his wife, son and two brothers. A team from Madhichiyam police station, that had accompanied the body, was also present[10]. No medical team or sanitation officers were present during the burial, which was completed by 5am. “The last rites were completed with very few family members and a representative from the local Jamath. Everything was completed according to the procedure,” the official said. A top district official told DH that the man was buried according to the standard operation procedure (SOP) laid out by the Union Ministry of Health and Family Welfare.

Indonesians carona affected, Ilaiyankudi, Tamil Hindu 26-03-2020

Two groups must have visited Tamil Nadu with specific agenda: From the Tamil and English media, the following details are gathered and arranged chronologically: The foreign Islamic preachers visited the mosques as follows:

12-03-2020

13-03-2020 to 15-03-2020

16-03-2020 to 18-03-2020

19-03-2020 to 21-03-2020

22-03-2020

Suramangalam, Rahmat Nagar mosque

Chevvaippettai, Milk market mosque

Ayyampettai, Sheikd Omar mosque

Sanyasikundu, Bhukariya mosque

Jamat-ul-Firdhosh mosque

So after declaring the danger of COVID-19, these preachers were roaming from mosque to mosque indulging in religious activities as the media report variously. Evidently, the mosque authorities have not informed the concerned authorities about the visit, sojourn and activities of the Islamic preachers.

The other sojourn dates are given as follows: February 26th, 2020, four couple each of 16 Indonesians and Malaysians came to New Delhi Dabliq Jamat. They visited Kanchipuram mosques.  Then, they sojourned to many mosques situated in the towns and villages as follows:

06-03-2020 to 08-03-2020

08-03-2020 to 10-03-2020

10-03-2020 to 12-03-2020

12-03-2020 to 14-03-2020

14-03-2020 to 16-03-2020

16-03-2020 to 20-03-2020

20-03-2020 to 23-03-2020

Madurai

Ramanathapuram

Ervadi

Vallakulam

Oppilan

Kizhaslvanur

theraveli

They had gone to each and every mosque and preached about prayer and other methods. As the two sets of dates and places differ, it is evident that two different groups must have come – one from Thailand and another from Indonesia with a specific agenda. And te local mosques must have well been aware of the program in advance, as otherwise, they could not have gone there on dates as noted above.

Sultanpet, Erode, The Hindu photo

Readers, the general public and others might not understand the bias: It can easily be noted that the news reportings have been impartial, biased and suppressing facts. They have been very meticulous to record that according to the doctor, minister, report etc., without going into the details. Otherwise, they claim themselves as “investigative” journalists probing into every aspect and they know everything. But, here, they do now who would be going to mosque or not. They do not know the name of the person died with Corona virus or  COVID-19. Why the Islamic preachers from Thailand and Indonesia came, why they visited mosques, why the mosques are getting infected and they disinfected………nothing is known to them. They know only what the TN government officials said, Minister tweeted and so on. Here, such bias has been exhibited only by them and the ordinary readers did not know, till he mosques were / are disinfected.

Erode Sultanpettai,GOOGLE, 24-03-2020

Do the Islamic preachers and Indian counterparts have any agenda behind their secret sojourns?: After reading the reports, it is surprising to note as to why the Islamic preaches took such risky sojourn making themselves as prey to the COVID-19 and travelled parts of Tamil Nadu. And also why the invitees and sponsors have dared to accommodate them and carried on their activities. Though, none could have any prejudice against the Muslims, because of the past experience, naturally, a reasonable doubt arises as to whether such daring exercise could be part of their new method of jihad. In fact, already, there have been mentionings of “Corona Jihad” and so on. As the martyrdom and saheed-doms have been unique in Islam, the suicide bombers have already been in action killing many people and damaging properties. Then, suicide car bombers and plane bombers have also executed their attacks resulting in 26/11, and so on in different parts of the world. Therefore, the sane elements of Islam should prevent such new creed is not nurtured, developed and engaged in such destruction of humanity, as already, the COVID-19 has been in action. Let us not the fanatics and fundamentalist join to wipe out the earth. Let all believers pray to GOD to save the earth with the existing humanity.

© Vedaprakash

27-03-2020

Erode Kollampalayam, identified, 24-03-2020

[1] Hindustan times, Coronavirus Update: 54-yr-old man with no travel history dies of Covid-19 in Tamil Nadu, HT Correspondent, INDIA Updated: Mar 25, 2020 10:12 IST.

[2] https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/coronavirus-update-54-yr-old-man-with-no-travel-history-dies-of-covid-19-in-tamil-nadu/story-GYNptVLD5O63zvu6SVoBIK.html

[3] Indian Express, Tamil Nadu records first COVID-19 death as Madurai patient succumbs, By Shobana Radhakrishnan, Express News Service, Published: 25th March 2020 02:54 AM | Last Updated: 25th March 2020 09:15 PM

[4] https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil-nadu/2020/mar/25/tamil-nadu-records-first-covid-19-death-as-madurai-patient-succumbs-2121250.html

[5] News.18, Coronavirus Outbreak: Madurai Man With No Travel History Remains Critical, Says TN Health Minister, Nitya Thirumalai | Updated:March 24, 2020, 4:13 PM IST.(With inputs from Tamilarasi. D)

[6] https://www.news18.com/news/india/coronavirus-outbreak-madurai-man-with-no-travel-history-remains-critical-says-tn-health-minister-2549431.html

[7] Deccan Herald, 54-year-old who tested coronavirus positive dies; Tamil Nadu reports first COVID-19 death, E T B Sivapriyan, DHNS, Chennai, MAR 25 2020, 02:50 IST UPDATED: MAR 25 2020, 09:40 IST.

[8] https://www.deccanherald.com/national/south/54-year-old-who-tested-coronavirus-positive-dies-tamil-nadu-reports-first-covid-19-death-817373.html

[9] Times of India, Coronavirus in Tamil Nadu: Four family members, cops present at Madurai Covid-19 patient’s burial, Devanathan Veerappan | TNN | Mar 25, 2020, 13:40 IST.

[10] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/madurai/coronavirus-in-tamil-nadu-four-family-members-cops-present-at-madurai-covid-19-patients-burial/articleshow/74807523.cms

The Christian illegal encroachment of Acharappakkam hillock portion and construction of Church complex disturbing ecology and the adjacent Hindu Temple! [2]

March 22, 2020

The Christian illegal encroachment of Acharappakkam hillock portion and construction of Church complex disturbing ecology and the adjacent Hindu Temple! [2]

Lawrence Pius, Pushpam and others visit to hillock

The case is coming up today March 23, 2020: Justices M. Sathyanarayanan and R. Hemalatha on Tuesday [25-02-2020] directed Additional Government Pleader R. Vijay Kumar to take notice on behalf of the Revenue Secretary as well as the Chengelpet Collector and obtain instructions by next month-March 2020[1]. The case is adjourned till the survey was over and fixing the next hearing on March 23, 2020[2]. According to Church version, “Pushpam Adigalar,” a Catholic priest held the charge of St. Joseph church, Acharappakkam in 1965. He reportedly started St. Joseph Elementary School for children there. There were no constructed structures until 2004, as being reported by the Tamil media[3].

Pushpam and another addressing at the hillock

How Mazhai Madha myth floated church constructed and the case started [2004 to 2017]:  In 2004, Backiya Regis took charge and he started construction of structures around the statue. It implies that there was a statue earlier and round which he started construction work. The mountain path was encroached and the work started at Pallippet, a Meikaal poromboke area [meant for grazing of cattle]. As vehicles carrying bricks, sand, CTD Bars and other construction materials, that path was encroached and converted into the road. The multi-storeyed buildings built. The Mazhai Madha church was reconstructed. To compete with and confuse the Hindu devotees, the Christians started “special prayers” on Paurnami days in 2005. As more and more Christian crowd started coming there from outside, the local people started objecting to such movements, as it caused a lot of nuisance. Whenever the local people complained to the respective authorities, they used to issue “warning notices” to the Church. They also used to have “dialogue” with the local people. However, the Church did not care and the authorities also did not take any action and thus the illegal activities went on, evidently with their co-operation and blessings. When all these illegal activities had been going on for many years, why, now the Tamil media coves this giving these details is also intriguing. To sum up, all the involved people have been doing this only because of certain extra-official and legal consideration.

Prayer tower built

Raja, a single man fights?: R. Raja told to the media, “When asked, the Revenue officials informed only four acres of meikaal poromboke land was encroached by the church authorities. But, when we went there to measure, it was revealed that they have encroached more than 60 acres of land. The hillock area coming under the forest department, mountain path and meikaal poromboke area and the areas covered under the department of Archaeology are involved. Initially, I sent registered letters to these departments pointing out the facts. As they did not take action, in other words, have been giving tacit support to the Church people I filed this petition before the Madras High Court”. But, here also, the intriguing factors have been, the authorities in question have been aiding and abetting for the last 14 years. Therefore, sending letters to the same authorities would be futile only. As the government officers change periodically, they do not bother about such letters, unless, they are addressed to their higher authorities, vigilance section etc. But what was done is not revealed in the news coverage. Therefore, as this petition has been in the court, it is right time that people like Subramanyam Swamy to take up and argue, as otherwise, for some flimsy technical reason, the petition would be rejected and the involved would be absolved from all the illegal and criminal activities.

Mazhai Madha Church - myth floated-complex-2

The massive Chruch complex has been built with an agenda: As the issue is critically analysed with circumstantial evidences, the present buildings, guest houses, hotels, road for vehicles and steps for devotees and other infrastructure, it is evident that all have been well-planned and executed with crores of money. Hundreds of lorries carrying construction materials had gone; thousands of workers involved and huge amounts disbursed. Thus, there should be enough documents for al such activities taken place. Moreover, in between, many foreigners were brought here, declaring this Church complex as “International Retreat Centre.” Therefore, all such details are also available. Thus, if the documents are asked for verification before the court, all facts would be out and the involvement of people, officials and departments would be exposed. How the Patta, current, drainage and so many sanctions and clearances have been given, which officers signed those documents would be known, as they are open to the public. Therefore, as the case is posted tomorrow, i.e, 23-03-2020, the concerned should observe the proceedings.

Mazhai Madha Church - myth floated-complex

The case should be argued/conducted properly: As pointed out the Court ordered to conduct a proper survey and report to the Court on March 23, 2020. But, the general public does not know what will happen. Who would appear/depose before the Judges, what details they submit etc. “We will redeem temples, reclaim, recover temples,” Temple protection Committees and so on. But, I could not find that any one of them filing a petition to tag themselves in the case. From 25-02-2020 to 23-03-2020, what happened is also not known to the public. Therefore, the case should be argued properly, As the church has already spent crores, they do not mind in spending moe to win the case, as their influence at all levels is well-known.  But, who would support Sothuppakkam R. Raja is not known. There has been one version that the area was leased to them for 99 years lease. If that is the case, who would unlease it? Therefore, as this petition has been in the court, it is right time that people like Subramanyam Swamy to take up and argue, as otherwise, for some flimsy technical reason, the petition would be rejected and the involved would be absolved from all the illegal and criminal activities, as pointed out above.

The 31st Plenary Assembly of the Conference of the Catholic Bishops of India (CCBI) of the Latin Church held in January 2019

The support extended to this illegal Church from Archbishop to the Vatican: A Catholic website, “Indian Catholic Matters – A New Home for the Community” gives the following details[4].  Inaugurating the 31st Plenary Assembly of the Conference of the Catholic Bishops of India (CCBI) of the Latin Church, in Chennai on January 9, 2019 [Wednesday], Archbishop Giambattista Diquattro, the Apostolic Nuncio to India and Nepal, exhorted the Church in India to pay attention to the needs of the humanity. His Eminence Oswald Cardinal Gracias, in his presidential address, made an appeal to the Church in India to revitalise the Evangelization and added to it he insisted “our Evangelization should be full of life, full of love for mission.” Archbishop Anil Cuoto, the Secretary-General read the annual report of the Conference. Archbishop George Antonysamy, the Vice President read the message of Holy Father Pope Francis and Cardinal Filoni the Prefect of Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples. Archbishop George added India needs the Church and the Church needs India. The Inaugural session began with the lighting of the lamp by the dignitaries.

Hillock encroached,CBCI discussed about it Jan.2019-1

Why Mazhai Madha Church is important and significant[5]: Most Rev. Dr. A. Neethinathan the Bishop of Chingleput in his welcome address listed out the reasons why Chingleput is the right place for this 31st Assembly, as it is the land of St. Thomas the Apostle, the Apostle of India and has as part of its diocese the Holy Hill of His Martyrdom. “The patron saint of the diocese St. Joseph, father figure of the Church who guards the Church. Mazhai Malai Madha our co-patroness the mother of the Church – who accompanied the early Church,” he said. Chingleput Diocese which comprises of the civil district of Kancheepuram is the place of other religious people live majority and provides us with the opportunity to be Joy of the Gospel. The seven days meeting of the Bishops will discuss the Theme “The Joy of the Gospel” and will look at the new forms of evangelization and the ways and means – to foster the Evangelization. The assembly will also discuss the matters affecting the Latin Catholic Church in India. There are 132 dioceses and 189 Bishops of the Latin Church in India. The Conference of the Catholic Bishops in India (CCBI) is the largest Episcopal conference in Asia and fourth in the world.

Hillock encroached,CBCI discussed about it Jan.2019-2

Do the Hindus have such congregation, commitment and work?: The Christians or Mohammedans or opposite ideologists have been working with commitment and highly professional with sophisticated training. Do the Hindus have such training and professionalism? Do the Hintutwa guys could match these people? Most of the guys appear whenever BJP is in power do something, earn money, stabilize themselves and keep quiet. If the BJP is out, they too disappear. But, the opposite ideologists have not been like that. They work continuously or committed people carry on the work for years. As otherwise, all these things could not happen, in spite of their sexual crimes, pedophile offences and other law-breaking sins or sinful law-breakings. So what is the response of Hindus?

© Vedaprakash

22-03-2020

Mazhai Madha Church - myth floated

[1] NEWS18, அரசு நிலத்தை ஆக்கிரமித்து தேவாலயம் கட்டப்பட்டதா? தமிழக அரசு பதிலளிக்க உயர் நீதிமன்றம் உத்தரவு!, LAST UPDATED: FEBRUARY 25, 2020, 3:35 PM IST.

[2] நியூஸ்.ஜே, மலையை ஆக்கிரமித்து தேவாலயம் அமைப்பு : தமிழக அரசு பதில் அளிக்க உயர் நீதிமன்றம் உத்தரவு, Feb 25, 2020 06:18 PM.

https://www.newsj.tv/view/tructure-of-the-church-occupying-the-mountain-:-High-Court-orders-response-of-the-Government-of-Tamil-Nadu-36956

[3] விகடன், அத்துமீறிய மழைமலை மாதா நிர்வாகம்சிதைக்கப்பட்ட மலைக்குன்று! உயர்நீதிமன்ற கெடுபிடி, பா. ஜெயவேல் Published:26-02-2020 at 7 PMUpdated:Yesterday at 7 PM.

https://www.vikatan.com/news/controversy/madras-high-court-seeks-a-report-on-acharapakkam-madha-shrine-land-issue

[4] ICM News,  Pay Attention to the Needs of Humanity, Apostolic Nuncio Urges Church, January 9, 2019 Team ICM News

[5] https://indiancatholicmatters.org/pay-attention-to-the-needs-of-humanity-apostolic-nuncio-urges-church/

The Christian illegal encroachment of Acharappakkam hillock portion and construction of Church complex disturbing ecology and the adjacent Hindu Temple! [1]

March 22, 2020

The Christian illegal encroachment of Acharappakkam hillock portion and construction of Church complex disturbing ecology and the adjacent Hindu Temple! [1]

Hillock encroached, The Hindu 02-2020

How the media has been silent and biased: The English media has been silent about the illegal encroachments, unlawful constructions and dishonest land transactions of the Christians of every order from Archbishop to pastor. Perhaps, about the Acharapakkam encroachment, only, “The Hindu” has reported as follows[1], “A public interest litigation petition has been filed in the Madras High Court accusing the management of Malaimada church situated atop a hillock in Maduranthakam Taluk near here of encroaching upon adjoining areas including forest lands for construction of shops and other structures. Justices M. Sathyanarayanan and R. Hemalatha on Tuesday [25-02-2020] directed Additional Government Pleader R. Vijay Kumar to take notice on behalf of the Revenue Secretary as well as the Chengelpet Collector and obtain instructions by next month. R. Raja, 45, a local resident, had filed the PIL petition with a plea to remove the encroachments. The petitioner claimed that the church itself had been constructed about five decades ago on a piece of land classified as Meikaal Poromboke (land meant for grazing). Thereafter, the management laid a road and began disturbing the ecology of the hill, he alleged and accused it of having constructed many shops last year. Unabated constructions had caused great damage to the animals on the hillock and also the archaeological sites on the foothills, he alleged”. The so-called legal correspondent[2] has no guts to give the past activities of the church leading to such legal proceedings initiated.

Lawrence Pius, Pushpam visit to hillock

The unblushing Christian liars started manufacturing myths: The Christians have been experts in manufacturing lies, converting them into myths and myths into stories and then traditional narratives and finally “history” through “quoted-quoted-quoted” methodology. Even, if proved, they have been unblushing liars and carry on, as they have to protect their status. They do not mind spending money also for such activities. Moreover, they have the support of corrupt government officials of various departments, undue political influence and an unethical gang of foreign elements also. As they have enough influence in the courts, judiciary and related departments and ministries, they manipulate and escape. There have been many classical Supreme and High Court judgments, but, kept in a low profile. Thus, the “Acharapakkam” illegal activities going on since the 2000s  were not discussed in the media. Of course, lakhs of people travelling to Tindivanam and beyond or coming to Chennai have been watching them. The onlookers might think, “the Christians would be behaving only in that way, what we can do,” and leave just like that. But, as this affair has exceeded limits, the media has reported.

Lawrence addressing at the hillock

How the “Mazhai madha” myth was created?: Their website gives the story as follows[3]: “In 1969 people experienced severe drought all over Tamilnadu particularly in Acharapakkam. Fr. A.Pushpam, the founder of this shrine had arranged for a car procession in honour of our Blessed Mother to intercede for the good shower of rain. When the car procession ended at a place called Nallayan Kundru there was a heavy downpour with thunder and lightning. This astonishing miracle touched everyone and in gratitude, they lovingly named our Blessed Mother as Mazhai Malai Madha and built a beautiful grotto. Rev. Fr. Pushpam who served as a Parish Priest from 1963 to 1973 rendered selfless service. With the same zeal Rev. Fr. Backiya Regis had served this Shrine for 10 years and made it a place of testimony to the faith of the multitudes that come there regularly. The Annual Feast is being celebrated on the first Saturday of October. Thousands of people belonging to various religions gather to express their love and devotion to the Blessed Mother. The shrine caters to the needs of the poor and the marginalized of the society by carrying out various social activities especially for the physically challenged. The Decree proclaiming Mazhai Malai Madha as the Second Patroness of the Diocese of Chingleput and raising the church dedicated to her to the status of a Diocesan shrine was promulgated by Rt. Rev. Dr. Neethinathan on 05th September 2003 in the presence of his Eminence Simon Cardinal Lourdusamy.”

Lawrence, Pushpan and another addressing at the hillock

Does the Melvaruvathur Temple Trust colludes with Mazhai Madha Church?: That Melmaruvathir Adi Parasakti Temple has been there nearby and lakhs of devotees from neighbouring states have been visiting the temple have been well-known. In fact, the Karnataka government allows special busses to come and return. Therefore, it is common for such devotees and tourist pilgrims to go to nearby interesting places. In fact, the bus driver and conductor do such canvassing. Moreover, Bangaru Adigalar, his son and family have been engaged in celebrating Christmas openly, dressing the Amman idol as “Mary carrying Jesus” and so on! The recent marriage also stunned many devotees. The movement of pasters from this church to the temple, participating in “religious harmony” functions have also been noted. Thus, the “Adi Parasakti Amman” and “Mazhai Matha” might be made sisters and new myths floated soon, as has been happening in Kerala. Of course, the myths floated in the case of fraudulent “thomas” have been well-known.

Mazhai Madha Church - massive constructions

The Acharapakkam encroachment coming to limelight in 2009[4]: There has been 1500 years old Pasypatheswarar Temple on the hillock. Perhaps, in 2004, the Christians planted a concrete cross on the other side. Then, they started lighting lights in the form of “Mariyee vazka” [Ave Maria, Hail Mary]. They reportedly built a small church and then demolished to build a bigger one. But, how these Christians could encroach the other side has been intriguing. Evidently, they violated the provisions of many acts and rules and the officials of Forest, Revenue, local Panchayat, Electricity Board officials aided and abetted them by giving illegal sanctions and connections. Thus, they slowly increased their buildings and enlarged their occupation. In fact, a local VAO had given a complaint to the police[5], but, nothing happened. Incidentally, the Christians started “Paunami” gatherings at the Church to compete with the devotees of the Vajagiri, Sivan Temple. Everyone knows that Christians have nothing to do with such celebrations. Thus, the encounters between the Hindus and Christians started.

Mazhai Madha Church - myth floated-arputa nagar

Pungavana, VAO, Acharapakkam gave a complaint to the police: As the Police realized the problem and they did not want any confrontation between the Hindus and the Christians, they called the representatives from both and advised. The Christians accepted that they would not encroach further by maintain status quo[6]. However, they continued with their activities and constructions.  Thus, the public themselves started complaining to the police. Therefore, the police also enquired, but, did nothing. Under such circumstances, one R. Raja from Sothuppakkam, a nearby village, filed a writ petition in the Madras High Court with the plea that the Christians have encroached the Acharappakkam hillock portion, illegally occupied 55 acres land and therefore, all the illegal constructions should be ordered to be removed[7]. As they blasted rocks with detonators for building steps, many wild animals have been disturbed and there has been a threat of them entering into nearby towns[8]. “R. Raja, 45, a local resident, had filed the PIL petition with a plea to remove the encroachments. The petitioner claimed that the church itself had been constructed about five decades ago on a piece of land classified as Meikaal Poromboke (land meant for grazing). Thereafter, the management laid a road and began disturbing the ecology of the hill, he alleged and accused it of having constructed many shops last year. Unabated constructions had caused great damage to the animals on the hillock and also the archaeological sites on the foothills.” Justices M. Sathyanarayanan and R. Hemalatha on Tuesday [25-02-2020] directed Additional Government Pleader R. Vijay Kumar to take notice on behalf of the Revenue Secretary as well as the Chengelpet Collector and obtain instructions by next month[9]. The case is adjourned till the survey was over and fixing the next hearing on March 23, 2020[10].

© Vedaprakash

22-03-2020

Mazhai Madha Church contact details

[1] The Hindu, PIL accuses Malaimada church management of encroaching hillock, Legal Correspondent,, CHENNAIFEBRUARY 26, 2020 01:22 IST, UPDATED: FEBRUARY 26, 2020 01:22 IST

[2] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/pil-accuses-malaimada-church-management-of-encroaching-hillock/article30917396.ece

[3] The so-called “Mazhai Madha” church website: http://malaimadha.org/index.html , and the history floated by them – http://malaimadha.org/About.html – history

[4] தினமலர், அரசு நிலத்தை ஆக்கிரமிப்பதாக கிறிஸ்தவ ஆலய நிர்வாகம் மீது புகார், அக்டோபர் 02,2010 , http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=97459&Print=1

[5] வேதபிரகாஷ், கிருத்துவர்களின் நிலம் அபகரிப்பு தொடர்கிறது!, பிப்ரவரி 2, 2010.

[6] https://christianityindia.wordpress.com/2011/02/10/christian-land-grabbing-continues-in-tamilnadu/

[7] நக்கீரன், புறம்போக்கு நிலத்தை ஆக்கிரமித்து தேவாலயம்!- அகற்றக் கோரிய வழக்கில் தமிழக அரசு பதிலளிக்க உத்தரவு!, அதிதேஜா, Published on 25/02/2020 (17:26) | Edited on 25/02/2020 (17:36).

https://www.nakkheeran.in/24-by-7-news/thamizhagam/government-land-church-chennai-high-court

[8] தினத்தந்தி, மலைக்குன்றை ஆக்கிரமித்து கட்டப்பட்ட தேவாலயம்அரசு, தொல்லியல் துறை, தேவாலய நிர்வாகம் பதிலளிக்க உத்தரவு, பதிவு : பிப்ரவரி 25, 2020, 06:24 PM.

https://www.thanthitv.com/News/TamilNadu/2020/02/25182449/1119929/Church-built-against-rules.vpf

[9] NEWS18, அரசு நிலத்தை ஆக்கிரமித்து தேவாலயம் கட்டப்பட்டதா? தமிழக அரசு பதிலளிக்க உயர் நீதிமன்றம் உத்தரவு!, LAST UPDATED: FEBRUARY 25, 2020, 3:35 PM IST.

[10] நியூஸ்.ஜே, மலையை ஆக்கிரமித்து தேவாலயம் அமைப்பு : தமிழக அரசு பதில் அளிக்க உயர் நீதிமன்றம் உத்தரவு, Feb 25, 2020 06:18 PM.

https://www.newsj.tv/view/tructure-of-the-church-occupying-the-mountain-:-High-Court-orders-response-of-the-Government-of-Tamil-Nadu-36956

3000 Hindus converting to Islam in Coimbatore: A Communal drama, strategic plan or politicized agenda? [1]

March 8, 2020

3000 Hindus converting to Islam in Coimbatore: A Communal drama, strategic plan or politicized agenda? [1]

3000 Hindus convert to Islam, IE

Tamil Puligal Katchi threatening to convert to Islam: Indian Express reported in December 2019 itself, Nadur residents and members of Tamil Puligal Katchi, citing ill-treatment of Dalits in the Hindu religion, had announced that they would be converting to Islam[1]. The decision was made at the outfit’s State-level meeting held at Mettupalayam. In other words, the general public does know this party or the actors involved. Moreover, as it came out explicitly converting to Islam, it is evident that the party members have contacts with the Mohammedans and in spite of Islamic terrorist activities, bombing and other activities taking place in Tamilnadu, particularly in Coimbatore, still, they preferred to do so, there has been nexus in such threatening. Its leader is seen with Mohammedan leaders and particularly respecting the tomb of Palani Baba is intriguing, as even, the Mohammedans do not like such activities (worshipping tombs). Yet, all have been going on. This proves that the nexus has a larger perspective of damaging agenda in the Indian context.

Coimbatore wall collapse, 17 SC killed.JCB

It all started with the collapse of the wall of Sivasubramanian (December 24. 2019): Indian Express continued…..In all, 3,000 individuals would give up their religion and become Muslims, they said[2]. General Secretary of Tamil Puligal Katchi M. Ilavenil presided over the meeting. Citing the wall collapse incident which claimed the lives of 17 people at Nadur, the members of the outfit said that despite there being a provision for taking action under the SC/ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act, the owner the house – Sivasubramanian – was not booked under it. The 80-feet-long granite compound wall of Sivasubramanian’s bungalow collapsed early Monday 02-12-2019 in Nadur Adi Dravidar (Dalit) Colony in Mettupalayam, Coimbatore, that killed 17 people, including 11 women and three children[3]. The Coimbatore district police in Tamil Nadu on Tuesday 03-12-2019 arrested a 60-year-old businessman in connection with the wall collapse[4]. “Sivasubramanian constructed the wall with a discriminatory motive. There were no pillars to support it. He built the wall in order to separate his house from those of the Dalits who lived nearby. Citing the discrimination, we have been demanding officials to alter the case registered on Sivasubramanian and book him under the SC/ST act. But the State government has not altered the case so far,” said Ilavenil.

Coimbatore wall collapse, 17 SC killed

Whether all the involved groups wanted to politicize the wall-collapse?: Speaking about the detention of Nagai Thiruvalluvan, who is the outfit’s president, he said, “The person responsible for the tragedy was released on bail within 20 days of his arrest. But Thiruvalluvan who protested in a democratic way seeking justice has been detained in Coimbatore prison. It exhibits the inequality in the religion,” he said. Claiming that Dalits are being ill-treated in the religion, Ilavenil said that his party members along with the people of Nadur have decided to convert to Islam. “As many as 100 people will convert to Islam on January 5 in Mettupalayam during the first phase,” he said, adding that the process will be taken up step by step in other districts. A rich man buys land and constructs his house adjacent to the houses already there of SCs. Or The SCs houses are coming up next to the house of a rich man and thus, he decides to construct a compound wall. It is very difficult to interpret in the highly politicized and sensitive issues like this. “Because of torrential rainfall, the granite compound wall, which was 23 feet in height, had tumbled on the houses lying below,” said K Rajamani, collector of Coimbatore district. Mettupalayam police booked Sivasubramanian under section 304 (a) of the Indian Penal Code for causing deaths by negligence.

Threat to convert. News 18 picture

Residents had alerted the businessman about cracks that had developed in the wall, but he ignored their requests to strengthen the structure, the police said. “The accused was absconding for a day. However, we managed to arrest him on Tuesday afternoon,” said a police officer inquiring into the incident. TN CM Edappadi K Palaniswami visited the families of the dead, whose relatives staged a protest on Monday evening that was broken up by the police using batons. Opposition DMK president MK Stalin criticised the police action, slamming the local civic body for not removing the hazardous wall. “It seems Nadur Adi Dravidar Colony locals have often asked Sivasubramanian and Mettupalayam municipality officials to remove the compound wall, which posed a grave threat. However, the government had not acted on their complaints,” Stalin said. The TN government announced an ex-gratia payment of Rs 4 lakh each for the families of those who died in the wall collapse.

India Today freport on coimbatore conversion - 1

India Today explained that an affidavit was given for conversion: IN THE AFFIDAVIT SUBMITTED FOR CONVERSION, ALL OF THESE MEN HAVE WRITTEN THESE FIVE POINTS[5]:

  1. I belong to the Hindu religion, Arunthathiyar class by birth.
  2. My family respects and follows all the principles of Hindu religion till this day. I don’t have any hatred towards Hinduism.
  3. For the past three years, I was inspired by the Islam and I decided to follow the religion because of it’s religious laws and doctrines. This decision wasn’t taken with any guidance.

I wholeheartedly adopt Islam and I would follow it truly.

I believe that God is one and Mohammed Nabi is the last messenger of God. I accept Islam completely and convert to be a Muslim[6].

Thus, it is very clear that the involved groups have started their experiment to get converted with stakes from the Mohammedan groups and as well as the government In other words, they want cake free and also want to eat comfortably with such floated lobby and clout.. It could turn out another “Meenakshipuram” type conversion involving power, finance and other complicated factors. As days have changed, their methodology has also been changing.

India Today freport on coimbatore conversion - 2

The arrest of Nagai Thiruvalluvan and coming together of anti-Hindu, anti-national forces: According to M. Ilavenil, general secretary of the outfit, 420 residents, many of them members of Tamil Puligal, from Thondamuthur, Annur, Periyanaickenpalayam, Karumathampatti and Mettupalayam embraced Islam at mosques near their homes[7]. He claimed that the religious conversions were the fallout of the wall collapse in Nadur, Mettupalayam in early December 2019, in which 17 persons belonging to the Scheduled Caste died[8]. None of the converts were from Nadur “because Hindu organisations and police are camping thereafter our announcement [about conversion] on January 24,” he further claimed[9]. The outfit’s chief Nagai Thiruvalluvan, arrested on charges of inciting violence in Mettupalayam, said his cadres had planned for the conversion when he was imprisoned. The primary reason was what he described as “discrimination against Dalits”, particularly by the officials[10].  The way the arrest of Thiruvalluvan was condemned by the Dravidian, Islamic, Communist and other anti-national, anti-Hindu groups has been intriguing ad noted carefully. Because their meetings and speeches have more political bias than the issue of dealing with SC or conversion[11]. Of course, the Mohammedan media has been so happy to carry out such news in their own way[12].

Tiruvalluvan with Jawahirulla

SC leaders accuse Hindu organizations: M. Ilavenil, general secretary of the outfit continued, “The State government’s failure to see the Nadur tragedy through the caste discrimination prism, recognise that casteism was at the core of the tragedy and displaying anti-Dalit bias were the reasons for the conversion,” he charged. “Why did the police show hesitation in registering a case against the owner of the property whose compound fell on three houses killing the 17 Dalits; why did the police, right from the beginning, attempt to conceal the discrimination angle; why did the government not take any action against officials who had failed to act on Nadur residents’ petition regarding the compound wall and why did the police fail to act in a fair manner,” he asked. “These questions have been weighing on the minds of his outfit’s members, Dalit activists and concerned Dalits. This has been a simmering anger that led to the decision to convert to Islam, where they are guaranteed of equality,” he added. This, however, did not include people from the affected area, Nadur, he said. “Consequent upon our announcement, members of Hindu outfits have camped in the area convincing the residents to not convert. They are supporting the building of a temple. And, the police too are in good numbers. Even I’ve not been able to go there.” Terming the Dalits of Nadur gullible, Thiruvalluvan said they were under the Hindu organisation’s influence.

© Vedaprakash

08-03-2020

SC threat to convert to Islam, India Today

[1] Indian Express, 3,000 Dalits to convert to Islam in Coimbatore over government inaction on Nadur wall collapse, Published: 25th December 2019 05:24 AM | Last Updated: 25th December 2019 08:17 AM.

[2] https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil-nadu/2019/dec/25/3000-dalits-to-convert-to-islam-in-coimbatore-over-government-inaction-on-nadur-wall-collapse-2080588.html

[3] Hindustan Times, Police arrest Tamil Nadu businessmen whose compound wall collapse killed 17, by M Manikandan, Updated: Dec 03, 2019 16:21 IST

[4] https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/police-arrest-tamil-nadu-businessmen-whose-compound-wall-collapse-killed-17/story-vcXYxgwDF0JpjjYBfucf3N.html

[5] India Today, Over 430 Dalits convert to Islam in Coimbatore citing injustice, more conversions underway, Akshaya Nath , Chennai, February 12, 2020; UPDATED: February 12, 2020 00:15 IST

[6] https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/dalits-convert-islam-coimbatore-hindu-discrimination-injustice-1645564-2020-02-12

[7] The Hindu, Over 400 Dalits in Coimbatore converted to Islam, claims outfit, COIMBATORE , FEBRUARY 13, 2020 15:08 IST; UPDATED: FEBRUARY 13, 2020 15:45 IST.

[8] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/over-400-dalits-in-coimbatore-converted-to-islam-claims-outfit/article30808864.ece

[9] News.18, Over 400 Dalits Converted to Islam Since Collapse of ‘Caste Wall’ Claimed 17 Lives, Says Tamil Nadu Outfit, Poornima Murali | CNN-News18Updated:February 14, 2020, 8:02 PM IST

[10] https://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/discriminated-treated-like-animals-over-400-dalits-convert-to-islam-in-tamil-nadu-3000-in-queue/552920

[11] The Siasat Daily, Over 430 Dalits convert to Islam in Coimbatore, POSTED BY SAFOORA, UPDATED: FEBRUARY 13, 2020, 3:51 PM IST

[12] https://www.siasat.com/over-430-dalits-convert-islam-coimbatore-1824227/

What happened to the Hindus killed in Orissa?

June 3, 2019

What happened to the Hindus killed in Orissa?

The biased reporting of the mediaThe media reported about the killing of Hindu Sanyasi – Swami Lakshmanand and his disciples variously as follows:

Bhubaneswar (Orissa): In a sensational incident[1] Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati and four of his close aids have been killed in a grenade attack by the suspected Maoists at around 9 PM at Jalaspotta Ashram, in Tumudi Bandh area in the tribal dominated district of Kandhamal in Southern Orissa on Saturday night.

Kandhamal (Orissa)In the wake of widespread violence in Orissa, the National Commission of Minorities (NCM) on Tuesday sought a comprehensive report from the State Government over the fresh violence in the communally-sensitive tribal dominated Kandhamal following the killing of Swami Laxmananda Saraswati[2].  “NCM has sought entire details of the episode and asked the Naveen Patnaik led Government to explain how the problem started,” NCM Chairman Md Shafi Qureshi said in a statement[3].

Killed along with Swami are Hindus: On August 23rd night, the celebrations were going on the eve of Krishna’s birth day just like Christmas. at Laxmananda’s kanyashram at Tumudibandh, about 100 km from Phulbani, the district headquarters of Kandhmal district. The killed were as follows, though not revealed by the media:

  1. Swami Lakshmanananda.
  2. Two inmates of the ashram – ladies, one has been Sanyasi.
  3. Two devotees.

A group of nearly 30 armed came in vehicles and they reportedly thrown a grenade and also started firing with AK-47. While confirming the attack, police sources said the attackers used automatic weapons and bombs[4]. Thus, such a group of men could not have come all of sudden and therefore, the attack has been evidently planned one in eliminating the Swamiji.

I have copied the images from the following sites:

http://picasaweb.google.com/pravat.chandra/MurderOfSwamiLaxmanandaSaraswati
http://picasaweb.google.com/visakeobbsr/SwamiLaxmanandaSaroswati

I acknowledge for using these photos only for the purpose of pointing out that the media has been suppressing the facts of the suffering of Hindus in Secular India. Though it has been against all law, norms, code etc., the national and international media and other agencies have been doing .

The Police enquiry appears to be slacking and directionless: The media reports thatOrissa police are yet to start a thorough inquiry that will lead them to the 30-odd assailants. In the last four days, Chief Minister Naveen Patnaik has announced the setting up of a judicial inquiry commission to unravel the truth and sent two police IGs and two DIGs to Kandhamal. On Tuesday (26-08-2008), he sent an investigation team, headed by Crime Branch SP Yatindra Koyal, to Kandhamal to hunt down the killers. On Saturday night (23-08-2008) when Lakshmanananda Saraswati was killed, Orissa Director General of Police Gopal Chandra Nanda didn’t wait for a full inquiry before making a statement that Maoists were behind the incident. “From the automatic weapons used it looks like the handiwork of Maoists,” he said. But four days after the incident, the state Government has nothing to prove this claim though two persons were detained on the suspicion that they could have had a role in the killing. On Wednesday (27-08-2008), Inspector General of Police (Intelligence) Manmohan Praharaj sought to play down the Maoist angle and said the police were keeping all the options open. “Whatever evidence we have got is consistent with the Maoist stamp in the kind of operation they undertake. The assailants had left a note written on the letterhead of Vamsadhara Zonal Committee, signed by one Azad[5], and it is consistent with the Maoist methods,” said Praharaj. While the Chief Minister claimed that intensive raids and intelligence-based combing operations were being undertaken to apprehend the culprits, police admitted that the probe was heading nowhere. “We have interrogated people but had to let them go after finding little evidence,” said Praharaj. The Maoist theory has been junked by Sangh Parivar outfits, who accuse the local Christians to be the killers. “Someone had decided at some point of time that Lakshmanananda Saraswati had to be killed,” said a VHP leader.

Hindu-Christian clashes: The media, both national and international local and Catholic has been unanimous that the clashes had been between Hindus and Christians. Then, how is that the killed Hindus are not mentioned in the media? The over-enthusiastic Christian media grossly misinterprets the fact that a nun was burned alive, though the victim has been a Hindu woman only[6]. The woman, Rajani Majhi, was a Hindu and a student of Padampur Women’s College in Bargarh district, said Deputy Inspector General of Police (northern range) Y B Khurania. Her biological father Laxmi Prasad Mahakud and foster father Guchu Majhi are both Hindus. They are residents of Nuapada village under Jharbandh police jurisdiction in the district[7]. Again, the national and international print and electronic media have been publishing pictures / photos, as if only Christians have been attacked, affected and so on. The attacked, suffered and affected Hindus are totally suppressed.

It is not national shame, but shame for secularism, as it has been against Hindus: No doubt, Dr. Manmohan Sigh has been a well-learned person, but his utterance that the Orissa incidences have been “national shame” has been shame to his stature. That is why the international and national stooges have been emboldened enough to publish, print and blare whatever they want without any basis[8]. Thus, the pro-Christian, Christian and anti-Hindu media have been so happy to make his utterance[9] headlines!

 50,000 schools will remain closed today!:Manmohan Singh said to a high level delegation of Christian leaders who met him on Thursday evening that the ongoing violence in Orissa is a “national shame”. To protest the attack on the Christian community, nearly 50,000 schools and institutions run by Christian organisations across the country will remain closed across the country on Friday[10]. A peaceful protest rally outside the Orissa Bhavan is planned on Friday. Several peaceful rallies are also expected to be held at various other places. The CRPF, which has been deployed in trouble-torn Orissa, is making all efforts to bring back the violence-affected families who have fled their homes for forests fearing attack from right-wing groups.

The Christians all the way to meet PM and others! Alarmed with the ongoing attacks on the Christian community, the seven member delegation, including two archbishops and a bishop, demanded that central para military forces be deployed in the affected areas to prevent reoccurrence of violence. They also asked for a CBI inquiry in the matter. The vice-president of National Council of Churches of India, Sushma Ramaswami, who was part of the delegation said, “The PM repeatedly said that the chief minister of Orissa, Naveen Patnaik, and the governor, have failed in their duty. He said that he would immediately call them and remind them of their constitutional responsibility to ensure the protection of all citizens.” Ms Ramaswami also said the Prime Minister assured the delegation that immediate financial relief would be provided to the families of those who lost their kin and to those who have been injured. All Christian organisation, including the Catholics Bishop Conference of India (CBCI), National Christian Council and Evangelical Fellowship of India have come under the National United Christian Forum to protest the violence aimed at the community. CBCI spokesperson Babu Joseph, who was a part of the delegation, said, “This is only the second time after 1998 when an all India call for closure of Christian institutions have been given. In 1998, it was due to the attacks in Dangs in Gujarat, but this is at a much larger scale and several lives have been lost.” Ms Sushma said they also asked the PM to ensure that at least the local Christian leaders be allowed to visit the local areas to reassure the people and take stock of the situation. The delegation submitted a memorandum which listed 26 people who lost their lives, 41 churches, four convents and five hostels which were destroyed, over 250 houses damaged and seven institutions attacked.

Hindu leaders do not care: What would have happened, if Hindu leaders tried to meet PM? It has not happened and therefore, the question does not arise. But, still, the learned PM and others do not bother as to why the Swami and four other Hindus were killed? Who killed? And why they were killed? But they go on sidetrack the issue of “Christians being attacked” and so on, even not bothering about the Hindus attacked.

© Vedaprakash

29-08-2019

[1] It is not known how killing of a Hindu Sanyasi, that too, 85-years old has been sensational to media persons.

[2] http://www.odishatoday.com/Orissa/NCM_seeks_report_from_Orissa_Govt_270808-8754210532689.html

[3] As there is no National Majority Commission, none bothers about the killing of Hindus there or anywhere in India or in the world!

[4] http://www.kalingatimes.com/odisha_news/news/20080823-Swami-Lakshmanananda-four-others-killed.htm

[5] Evidently, this has been picked up by the NDTV giving publicity. If that is the case, taking the name of “Azad”, one can make a wild guess that Muslims are involved in the killing!

[6] http://www.indianexpress.com/story/354169.html

[7] Woman burnt by the mob was Hindu, not Christian, By Express News Service, Posted online: Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 0023 hrs.

[8] As pinted out in the case of Pope!

[9] http://www.aol.in/news-story/PM-terms-Orissa-violence-a-%27national-shame%27/2008082816239012000013

http://abclive.in/index.php?news=1049

[10] http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/news/india/50,000-schools-will-remain-closed-today.aspx

 

 

“Thomas myth” raked up by the Kerala Church to suppress the multi-crore land scam racist, liturgical and  catechetical problems (1)

April 17, 2018

“Thomas myth” raked up by the Kerala Church to suppress the multi-crore land scam racist, liturgical and  catechetical problems (1)

Saint Thomas myth book - Tamil and English

Why “Thomas myth” raises head then and there?: Definitely, 120 or 130 crores of Indians, hardly few lakhs would be worried about the myth, fable, legend, story, tale, parable etc., about Thomas, doubting Thomas, doubtful Thomas or saint Thomas of any category, character or thing. However, the fanatic Christians, in spite of unhistorical nature, then and there used to repeat like parrot, “St. Thomas visited India”! Even, I  did not know anything about this. However, when the nuisance interfered with academic curriculum of the schools, I brought out a book “Saint Thomas myth in India” in 1989[1], exposing the useless, utter nonsense and unhistorical narratives spread not in accordance with history or with historical analysis. Ishwar Sharan brought out “Mylapore Siva Temple and Myth of Saint Thomas” in 1991[2] and 2010[3] [these books can be downloaded from the links provided at the footnotes]. As 90% of Indians have been secular, they do not bother about such myths, as they are concerned about their livelihood, attending to family affairs and other important work. Yet, the Christians used to disturb them with the fairy tales. So now, in 2018, the myth has started exploding again for unknown reasons. First, the rivalry among the “Thomas church” groups was reported, later turning into multi-crore land scam involving cardinal, bishops, and other Christian priests. As Indians used to think, “It is all their internal affair,” they read, heard and ignored the news and reports. But, the Christians want to draw attention of others. So the myth-debate has started.

Attack on Chidananda sami and promoting Ghulam Ali

Attack on Hindus, Hindu religion etc: Unlike other states, in Kerala, not only, the Hindu population is less, but, also, Hindus are targeted by the dominant, Communist, Mohammedan and Christian forces by many means. Now, everything is viewed in political perspective as 2019 General elections are nearing. Moreover, in Kerala, the power has gone to the Communists from the Congress.

Religion Population %
Hindus 1,82,82,492 54.73
Muslims 88,73,472 26.56
Christians 61,41,269 18.38

Evidently, the 55% Hindu population has been divided mainly by communist ideology and secularist principles followed and of course, the caste division of the Hindus. However, the slogan “Congress-mukt Bharat” has caught up the educated elite of the Keralites and some of them have started drifting towards BJP, mainly because of the charismatic leadership of Modi. Even Congress leaders like Shashi Tharoor have appreciated Modi. The Christian clergy has been having dialogue with RSS cadre. However, the uncompromising Marxists and Mohammedans have been fighting with right-wing groups in Kerala, many times leading to violence. Under such circumstances, the Church in Kerala might resort to strategy to target Hindus under the guise of raking up “Brahmin-SC/Dalit” issue under the bogey of “thomas myth,” as that serves them in many ways.

Church refutes -corrects Thelekkat - Mathru Bhumi- 15-04-2018

The Syro-Malabar Church issued statement refuting Fr Paul Thelakkat who reportedly declared that “st Thomas never came to India”: The “Thomas-myth” has been the worst type of falsified Christian propaganda circulated in India, in spite of historians making tall claims about “secular history, “secular temper” to deal with history and all. Perhaps, in recent times, it has come out in the media. Amid a controversy triggered by reported remarks of a senior priest questioning the belief that St Thomas visited India in AD 52[4], the Syro-Malabar Church today said the disciple of Jesus Christ did visit India[5]. “The official stand of the Syro-Malabar Church is that St Thomas had visited India”, the Church said in a statement here[6]. The statement was issued after Fr Paul Thelakkat, a former spokesperson of the church, last week [08-04-2018, Sunday] reportedly said there was no evidence to suggest that St Thomas had come to India[7]. Some newspapers and TV news channels quoting former spokesperson of the Syro Malabar Church had reported there is no evidence to prove St Thomas had come to India[8]. Some media even said this is the official stand of Syro-Malabar Church. “This is baseless…,” it said. The Syro-Malabar Church originated from the evangelisation works of St Thomas, said the statement issued by Bishop Sebastian Vaniyappurackal[9]. “World famous historians have accepted it as a fact. Many historic documents are there to support this,” he said. The “Business Standard” carried the story with caution[10]. The propagandist church however did not name such “World famous historians”!

Fr Thelakkad Denies Saying That St Thomas Did not Visit Kerala, Mathrubhumi
Fr Thelakkat clarifies that he never questioned the belief of his coming but converting Brahmins: Evidently perturbed by the Church attack, Fr Thelakkat today [15-04-2018] said he had never made a statement about the traditional belief that St Thomas had come to India. He clarified he had made certain remarks regarding prevailing upper caste feelings in Church while joining a debate kick started by Bishop Geevarghese Mor Coorilos of the Niranam diocese of the Jacobite Syrian Church on the issue. After all, Catholic priest cannot go against the hierarchy, Pope and the Vatican. “We should not rely on glory of a caste or tribe. That is dangerous,” Thelakkat told PTI. The Jacobite priest had recently criticised some church members for conducting hollow family meetings. He had said in a Facebook post that some of the families believe in fake myths that their forefathers were members of the Brahmin community and St Thomas converted them to Christianity. These kinds of false beliefs should be broken, he had said. Whether Brahmins were or not, the motive behind such belief, the drama of opposing and supporting myth etc., in the context has to be analysed.

SC- converted christians- controversy

Christians cannot fool, hoodwink or suppress Indians for their denominations existing for their ow reasons: Syrian Christians are divided mainly into Syrian Catholic, Jacobite, Orthodox, Marthoma churches depending upon whether they owe their allegiance to the Pope in Rome, the Patriarch in Antioch, Catholicos in Kerala’s Kottayam or Metropolita in Thiruvalla. In other words, it is their theological, liturgical, catechetical problem as to how they have been divided or to be divided. They just want to provoke Hindus by raising the casteist issue to suppress their racist and denominational divisions. Coorilos, who belongs to Jacobite Church, has mercilessly swung an axe at the root of the age-old belief that is pervasive across all the four sects – that their ancestors are Namboodiris who were converted to Christianity by St Thomas. It also questions the existence of churches like Malayatoor that is famously believed to be the meditative halt of St Thomas during his Kerala leg of his sojourn. Brahmins’ conversion to Christianity under St. Thomas had been a point of dispute for long. .

The Papal bull Gregory VX accommmodating caste

Caste and Christianity – Pope’s tactful accommodation: The Pope Gregory XV (1621-23) has definitely accepted the caste. The Bull of Pope Gregory XV, “Bulla Romanae Sedis Antistitis”, dated 31 January 1623, accedes to the requests of the missionaries to accommodate themselves to certain caste practices and usages of the new converts[11]. Why not then the present Pope annul the Papal Bull issued, instead of recollecting what he had said in 1986. In fact, after his visit, there had been so many “caste problems and issues” within the Indian Church. The Supreme Court itself pronounced that if the Chuch wants reservation based on untouchability and caste, such factors of existence in Christianity should be proven (Soosai vs UOI – AIR 1986). Then, started the research of Athony Raj, SJ with funds to prove that untouchability and Caste system were there in Christianity and practiced even today. The Dutch Reformed Church of South Africa (DRC) has separate Churches for whites, black and coloured ones. The Apartheid Enquiry Committee in its report clearly pointed out that the Bible was responsible for caste like division. Why then even in non-Indian societies such divisions should exist?

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17-04-2018

caste, christianity, SC- reservation

[1] The Tamil book, book “Saint Thomas myth in India” – can be downloaded from here –https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AE9JnTvwIEO8PVc&cid=F97FE5FFAA8BA3D6&id=F97FE5FFAA8BA3D6%21144&parId=F97FE5FFAA8BA3D6%211423&o=OneUp

[2]  Ishwar Sharan’’s “Mylapore Siva Temple and Myth of Saint Thomas” 1991 edition can be downloaded from here – https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AFZpdl8nyZY-SGE&cid=F97FE5FFAA8BA3D6&id=F97FE5FFAA8BA3D6%211429&parId=F97FE5FFAA8BA3D6%211423&o=OneUp

[3]Ishwar Sharan’’s “Mylapore Siva Temple and Myth of Saint Thomas” 2010 edition can be downloaded from here –https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21APmNJmffAGILUmY&cid=F97FE5FFAA8BA3D6&id=F97FE5FFAA8BA3D6%21154&parId=F97FE5FFAA8BA3D6%211423&o=OneUp

[4] Note in spite of the fact that CE and BCE notations are used by  historians and researchers, the media persons still use the “christian” notations!

[5] Malayala Manorma, Church corrects Fr Thelekkatt, says there is proof of St Thomas visiting India, Sunday April 2018 08:28 PM IST.

[6] https://english.manoramaonline.com/news/kerala/2018/04/15/st-thomas-church-india.html

[7] Mathrubhumi, Syro-Malabar Church refutes Fr.Paul Thelakkat’s remark on St. Thomas’ India visit.,, Published: Apr 15, 2018, 02:27 PM IST……

[8] http://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/kerala/syro-malabar-church-refutes-fr-paul-thelakkat-s-remark-on-st-thomas-india-visit-1.2744403

[9] Business Standard, Church says St Thomas visited India, Press Trust of India | Kochi, Last Updated at April 15, 2018 19:35 IST; First Published: Sun, April 15 2018. 19:35 IST.

[10] This is the appened warning: (This story has not been edited by Business Standard staff and is auto-generated from a syndicated feed.)

http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/church-says-st-thomas-visited-india-118041500554_1.html

[11] http://hindooraashtrcom.fatcow.com/pdf/Caste-in-Christianity-Papal-Bull.pdf

Alleged conversion of Vaiko to Christianity, the revelation of controversial evangelist Mohan Lazarus and denial by the Periyarist V. Gopalsamy!

November 9, 2017

Alleged conversion of Vaiko to Christianity, the revelation of controversial evangelist Mohan Lazarus and denial by the Periyarist V. Gopalsamy!

Vaiko converted, Lazaraus claimed, The Hindu 08-11-2017

Murderers, dupers and unbelievers converted to Christianity!: Many Christian pastors have been accused of forcefully converting people of other faith, sometimes with stories of the eternal fire of damnation and sometimes with the lure of freebies[1]. But what came as a shock to many was the news of MDMK chief Vaiko’s conversion to Christianity, thus reported Asianet Newsable[2]. But, the reality has been none bothered about it, as Indians know the religious deceptions, pious frauds and divine scams have been going on behind such propaganda. As for as people of Tamilnadu are concerned, they know very well popular and notorious ones like A. V. M. Rajan[3] to Auto Shankar[4] (1954-1995) were converted to Christianity. Actually, Rajan was converted reportedly, as he was having some financial problems. As for as Auto Shankar is concerned, it is well knon that he was a hard-core criminal, rapist and killer of several women, thus, he was hanged. Ironically, the Christians caught hold of him before hanging, converted and promised heaven! It is not known, as to whether the inhuman murderer had gone to hell or “Christian heaven”! In any case, the conversion has not been any grace or honour brought to them or to their religion Christianity.

AVM Rajan and Auto Shankar converted

The conversion news coming out through Social media and media also: Now, news has come out in the mdia explicitly that Vaiko has been converted to Christianity and it has been revealed by one evangelist Mohan C. Lazarus. The videos revealing the conversion and Vaiko attending midnight mass and appreciating Christianiy like a preacher quoting Biblical verses have been in circulation for the last two weeks. Therefore, it was neccecitated Vaiko to clarify his position. The evangelist has been controversial with his rude way of criticizing Modi and ruling BJP. In vernacular media, his controversial acts have also been reported, but, he denied. Now, also, no secularist or Dravidian ideologist has come forward to criticize, analyze or condemn the conversion, alleged conversion, denial etc., in the context.

Mohan Lazarus claims Vaiko family converted

Mohan C Lazarus declares that Vaiko has been converted and he is a Christian!: Vaiyapuri Gopalsamy, also known as Vaiko is the founder and General Secretary of the Marumalarchi Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (MDMK), a political party active mainly in the state of Tamil Nadu. The claim of Vaiko converting to Christianity was first made by one of Tamil Nadu’s prominent evangelists Mohan C Lazarus. He also claimed in a video that is being widely circulated on social media that Vaiko was reading the Bible twice a day and regularly visits the Church along with his family. They have been baptized. Lazarus also said that Vaiko’s entire family had converted to Christianity. “His daughter and son-in-law are Christians. They are in the US, and every Sunday, they do the service of God. His wife is a Christian. Since he is in public life, he is not able to announce his new faith. He told me that he was reading Bible two times a day and asked me how to pray and I taught him,” Lazarus claimed in the video[5]. He could have produced the baptism certificate issued for Vaiko.

Vaiko converted to Christianity-09-11-2017-Asianet Newsable

Can any evangelist declare that any Dravidian leader has been converted and become a Christian?: Responding to a recent video of Lazarus, in which he states that Vaiko and his family have undergone baptism and converted to Christianity, MDMK deputy general secretary Mallai Sathya said that Vaiko has not made any announcement of getting converted into Christianity[6]. How then, Lazarus could declare so openly? Speaking to News Today, he said that Vaiko is a secular leader, who is genuinely interested in knowing about all religions. “He reads Quran, Bible and Bhagavad Gita to know about them and gain knowledge. This does not mean that he has converted to one particular religion. He is an atheist leader and will continue to be so,” he added[7]. Sathya said that people use his name for their own benefits and we do not take this seriously.  ‘We cannot go behind everyone who uses Vaiko’s name,’ he added. According to Lazarus, Vaiko’s daughter and son in law who live in US are engaged in Christian evangelist work.

Vaiko converted, Lazaraus claimed, News Today 08-11-2017

Vaiko’s reply has not been straight to deny: However, Vaiko has refuted Lazarus’ claims, saying that he hasn’t converted. “I am not a Christian. I respect all religions and my daughter-in-law has a pooja room in which you can see images of all Gods,” he told The Hindu. It was a result of his over-enthusiasm. It’s me and my brother who regularly contribute to the maintenance of the Vinayagar temple in my village,” he further said. He need not explain in this way apologetically, instead of refuting directly. Vaiko said that he had taken up the issue with Lazarus himself as such statements could have serious consequences[8]. He clarified that his daughter had married a Christian and there was no truth in the claim of Mr. Lazarus about others[9]. In Tamil media, he reportedly said that the speech of Lazarus would affect the political condition of the southern districts. So can Vaiko claim that even after becoming a Christian, instead of telling about her, why he says, that, . “……….my daughter-in-law has a pooja room in which you can see images of all Gods,”? Vaiko has been an open supporter of LTTE and had also made a trip to Eelam at the height of the LTTE’s war with Sri Lankan Army which has landed him into a lot of trouble over the years. He was arrested in 2010 for a sedition case filed by DMK. The crypto Christians are as dangerous as the false evangelists spreading satanic news and corrupting the Indian society.

Vaiko converted, Lazaraus claimed, Satya Jyoti- 08-11-2017

Vaiko’s pro-Christian activities and support: In July 2017, Vaiko led MDMK and PMK objected to keeping engraved Bhagawat Gita alongwith the wooden statue of Abdul Kalam playing veena in Kalam Memorial constructed by the Defense Research and Development Agency[10]. Vaiko insisted that Gita should be replaced with Tirukkural. Ironically giving all details, Deepak Aswale concludes that it seems the controversy over communal politics and Vaiko is certainly not coming to end[11]. Vaiko had not only brought a private member’s bill in parliament to give reservation for Dalit Christians[12], but also been campaining for the cause[13]. With his collegue Thiruma also he has bee doing that, though, legally, it is not possible[14]. Thus, knowingly why he has bee doing such propaganda has been intriguing. Here, the double-game of all the Christian missionaries, dalit groups, secular politicians, atheist grups etc., as such reservation is legally impossible, as the Presidential Order 1950 is meant for Hindus.

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09-11-2017

Vaiko converted, Lazaraus claimed, Tamil paper- 08-11-2017

[1] Asianet Newsable, Lazarus claims Vaiko converted to Christianity. Is it true?, By Team Asianet Newsable | 09:25 AM November 08, 2017.

[2] http://newsable.asianetnews.com/tamil-nadu/lazarus-claims-mdmk-chief-vaiko-converted-to-christianity

[3] His real name is Shanmugasundaram of Pudukottai. Rajan later became a full time Christian preacher since 1988 and since then has stopped acting in movies and dramas. His wife Pushpalatha is a Catholic by birth. Following Rajan’s conversion, his family too is serving full time Ministry.

[4] Shankar and his gang, consisting of his younger brother Auto Mohan and associates Eldin and Shivaji, as well as Jayavelu, Rajaraman, Ravi, Palani and Paramasivam, were found guilty of six murders, committed over a period of two years in 1988–1989. Shankar’s trial completed by the Chengalpattu sessions court He was sentenced to death along with two of his associates, Eldin and Shivaji, on May 31, 1991. Auto Shankar was hanged in Salem Central Prison.

[5] http://www.yarloosai.com/watch/jijvZaDNDs4/UUe1Nb-N6XgLFHfGxZjIkF8A/vaiko-his-family-converted-to-christianity-mohan-c-lazarus-confirms-tamil-news-redpix.html

[6] NewsToday, Vaiko denies converting into Christianity, NT Bureau, November 8, 2017.

[7] https://www.newstodaynet.com/index.php/2017/11/08/vaiko-denies-converting-into-christianity/

[8] The Hindu, MDMK chief denies claims of conversion, B. Kolappan, Chennai, November 08, 2017 00:24 IST; Updated: November 08, 2017 08:05 IST;

[9] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/mdmk-chief-vaiko-denies-claims-of-conversion/article20000053.ece

[10] SatyaVijay, Has MDMK leader Vaiyapuri Gopalsamy (aka Vaiko) embraced christianity, by Deepa Aswale, November 7, 2017.

[11] https://satyavijayi.com/vaiko-converted-christian-embraces-hinduism-political-purpose/

[12] http://mdmk.org.in/member/mr-vaiko

[13] Deccan Chronicle, There is a silent wave among people yearning for a change: Thol Thirumavalavan, Published May 5, 2016, 6:37 am IST; Updated May 5, 2016, 6:37 am IST

[14] http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/politics/050516/there-is-a-silent-wave-among-people-yearning-for-a-change-thol-thirumavalavan.html