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Madras High Court Judge amends his own Judgment after pressure from the Christian politicians, officialdom and clergy! Is India secular?

August 23, 2019

Madras High Court Judge amends his own Judgment after pressure from the Christian politicians, officialdom and clergy! Is India secular?

Judge Vidyanathan, Madras High Court

13-08-2019 – Christian institutions were highly unsafe for the future of their children: Justice S. Vaidyanathan accepts request to remove observations about Christian missionaries. The Madras High Court on Tuesday 20-08-2019, agreed to remove a contentious paragraph from one of its judgments since it was related to accusations faced by Christian missionaries of indulging in forcible religious conversions and supposed “general feeling” among parents, especially of girl children, that co-educational Christian institutions were highly unsafe for the future of their children[1]. Justice S. Vaidyanathan agreed to delete the relevant paragraph from his verdict in a case filed by a Madras Christian College (MCC) professor accused of sexually harassing girls during a study tour to Karnataka in January this year. The decision to delete was taken after the MCC counsel made a representation in open court on 20-08-2019, Tuesday and urged the court to remove the observations[2].

Para.32 of the Judgment

What the para 32 of the judgment said: The controversial paragraph read: “Before parting with the judgment, this Court feels it appropriate to point out that Christian missionaries are always on the source of attack in one way or the other and in the present era, there are several accusations against them for indulging in compulsory conversion of people of other religions into Christianity. Now, there is a general feeling amongst the parents of students, especially female students that co-educational study in Christian institutions is highly unsafe for the future of their children and though they impart good education, the preach of morality will be a million dollar question. As long as a religion is practised in streets in lieu of its worship places, like Temple, Mosque, Church, etc., such devastation, as in the present case, does occur and will be mushrooming.”

George Kurian opposes Madras High court observation
21-08-2019 – the Judge deleted the para no.32: Since the judge had dismissed the writ petition filed by the faculty challenging a show cause notice issued to him by the college management, the counsel said the subsequent observations added by the judge after dismissing the case were unnecessary and that they may not remain part of the judgment. The judge readily accepted the request. He, however, retained other observations wherein he had said that several women-centric enactments had been misused to teach a lesson to men in strained relationships. “This is the right time to think of suitable amendments in those laws, in order to safeguard the interest of the innocent,” the judge had said and directed the High Court Registry to mark a copy of his judgment to the Union Ministry of Law and Justice. The judge said[3], “When the court posed a question as to whether the court can remove Paragraph no.32 at this stage in the absence of any review petition – as the court becomes functuous officio after signing of the order – it was replied that there was no request for reviewing the entire order and a particular observation, which was general in nature was sought to be removed. Such removal will not in any way alter the findings/decisions of the court and therefore, there was no bar for this court to remove the Paragraph no.32, which was inapplicable to the present case on hand, especially when those points were not at all urged, canvassed, advanced or discussed by either of the counsel at the time of argument in the open court,” adding, “In view of the above submission and considering the fact that the general observation in Paragraph no.32 has been made by this court after the result portion, which will not at any cost affect efindings/substance/contents of the order, the said Paragraph no. 32 of the order is hereby deleted“, the judge added[4].

Pappusamy, Ravi Santhosam, Valentina - what common

How is that Christian and Communists could sing the same song immediately?: Justice Vaidyanathan had said parents felt that Christian co-education institutions were highly unsafe for the future of girls. Days after Justice S. Vaidyanathan of the Madras High Court commented in an order that parents felt that Christian co-education institutions were highly unsafe for the future of girls, several groups, including the Tamil Nadu Bishops’ Council (TNBC), the Tamil Nadu Latin Bishops’ Council (TNLBC), the All India Democratic Women’s Association (AIDWA) and the Indian Christian Association of Tamil Nadu expressed concern over his remarks. What this AIDWA was doing when so many girl students of the MCC complained, news appeared in the media and they protested in the college? Were they not conscious about the chastity of the girls, standards of the college or the values of the Christians etc?

What made the removal of para.32
21-08-2019, the Christians and the Communists threaten and 21-08-2019, the Judge bends and mends!: The judge made the comments while dealing with a sexual harassment case involving a professor of the Madras Christian College. In a statement issued on 21-08-2019, Monday, TNBC and TNLBC termed two of Justice Vaidyanathan’s observations — that there were “several accusations against Christians for indulging in compulsory conversion of people of other religions into Christianity”; and that there was a “general feeling among the parents of female students that co-educational studies in Christian institutions is highly unsafe for the future of their children” — regrettable and unwarranted[5]. “First of all, the case is not in any way connected with the question of religious conversion. Therefore, the said observation on religious conversion was unwarranted,” said Rev. Dr. Antony Pappusamy, Archbishop of Madurai and president of TNBC and TNLBC[6]. Regarding the observation about female students being unsafe, Dr. Pappusamy said, “We wonder what the material and data placed before the honourable judge were, that led him to render such a finding. As such, from a cursory reading of the factual matrix in that particular case, we do not find any institutional material warranting such an observation.” He also again endorsed a copy to Ministry of Law and Justice for making necessary amendments[7]. This has created controversy among the legal circles[8].

Para deleted. Deccan Herald

Valentina, State president, AIDWA: In a statement, S. Valentina, State president, AIDWA, said that when the words from a judge could become a law, the baseless accusations of the judge could have a serious impact on the welfare of minorities in the current socio-political climate. “A judge could have a particular view on a subject or could adhere to a specific political ideology. But when the judge is delivering justice, the judge should be impartial and wear the glasses of the Indian Constitution,” she said. AIDWA urged that the comments be withdrawn. Can anybody ask S. Valentina , State president, AIDWA, as to whether she made such statement against the Judge as a woman or Christian or otherwise? Where was Valentine when those Christian professors were harassing the girls, touching their breasts and barging into their rooms? Is it OK for Valentine all such sexual acts?

Para deleted. Deccan Herald.2
The Indian Christian Association of Tamil Nadu said it was deeply hurt: The Indian Christian Association of Tamil Nadu said it was deeply hurt by Justice S. Vaidyanathan’s remarks in the sexual harassment case involving the Madras Christian College.“The sweeping statement that there is a general feeling among parents that co-educational study in Christian institutions is highly unsafe for the future of their children, especially female students, is based on conjectures and surmises, and the comments [should] be expunged from the judgment,” said Dr. Ravi Santosham, president, Indian Christian Association. “The judge’s statement about compulsory conversions is baseless and totally irrelevant to the merits of the case.”

CBCI oppose, Para.32 of the Judgment

Catholic bishops’ forum in Tamil Nadu, The National Council of Churches in India, etc cry foul[9]: Christian leaders said the judge’s comments were painful but they welcomed the court’s decision not to interfere with the decision of the college, which British Protestant missionaries established in 1837. “The remarks the judge made in the order are highly disappointing,” said Father L. Sahayaraj, deputy secretary of the Catholic bishops’ forum in Tamil Nadu. The comments could “damage the image of the Church and the reputation of its education intuitions,” the priest told ucanews.com. The National Council of Churches in India, a forum of Protestant and Orthodox churches in India, said the comments were hurtful[10]. “We are hurt and sorry for such remarks in the order,” said general secretary Asir Ebenezer. “Christians work with commitment and diligence. Unfortunately, we are blamed and our places portrayed as unsafe. It really makes us sad.” The Tamil Nadu Catholic Bishops’ Council in an official statement termed the observations “very unfortunate.” It said conversion or the safety of Christian schools were not the issues before the court. It was one “relating to sexual harassment by a professor and the college has taken necessary action against him without any excuse.” The council also said Christian educational institutions have “produced stalwarts” in India, including Hindus and Muslims. Prabhakar Tirkey, national president of the Rashtriya Isai Mahasang (National Federation of Christians), said the court seems to have forgotten that “not a single Christian has been convicted” for violating conversion laws in the history of India. He noted that Christian missionaries introduced English education some five centuries ago but when the British left India in 1947, the Christian population was less than 3 percent, and “now it is 2.3 percent.”

Vaiko converted Lazarus claim

Political and Minority bogey pressures: The MDMK chief, V. Gopalsamy, reportedly converted to Christianity, as being proclaimed by the Christian evangelist and propagandist C. Lazarasus, immediately came to question the judgment and his video has become viral.  Then on 19-08-2019, Geoge Kurian, Vice Chairman of National Commission for Minorities writes an open letter questioning the judgment.  On 21-08-2019, the Christians and the Communists threaten and 21-08-2019, the Judge bends and mends. Thus, wthin days, they could achieve what they wanted or decided. How is that then, eve rything is controlled by RSS, BJP and so on? Who rules India really? How much of Christian interference and how it works and all, have been proved again through this incidence.

Abhaya murder case

All rapists, pedophiles and other sexual charge sheeters are good: One can recall how the Sha Bano judgment was rescinded by bring another Act, just to placate Muslims and promote Muslim vote bank. So you can forget all the crimes committed by the Christians – the murder of Abhaya, rape of nun by Mulakal, rape of children i.e, Christian pedophiles, sexual harassment, and every thing. All have become good souls, only the affected have been unholy, satanic and dangerous.  The charged, accused and other sinned Cardinal, bishops, pastors and clergy have been redeemed.  An none could question the Christians whatever crime they committed. The Bishops, Churches and above all Vatican are supreme, the Indian judges, courts etc., are nothing. They obey only Holy Sea, Spirit, God etc., not the Indian Constitution, Acts and Rules made there-under.

© Vedaprakash

23-08-2019.

Raveen Rajasigh, Christian Collge, Madras.FB

[1] The Hindu, Madras High Court deletes contentious paragraph on Christian missionaries from verdict, Mohamed Imranullah S. CHENNAI, AUGUST 20, 2019 16:03 IST, UPDATED: AUGUST 21, 2019 01:16 IST.

[2] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/madras-hc-deletes-remarks-on-christian-co-ed-institutions/article29181327.ece

[3] Deccan Chronicle, Chennai: Judge deletes observations against Christian institutions, J STALIN, Published Aug 21, 2019, 2:32 am IST; Updated Aug 21, 2019, 2:32 am IST

[4] https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/210819/chennai-judge-deletes-observations-against-christian-institutions.html

[5] The Hindu, Bishops’ Council, AIDWA concerned over judge’s remark on Christian-run institutions, STAFF REPORTER. CHENNAI, AUGUST 20, 2019 00:48 IST; UPDATED: AUGUST 20, 2019 00:48 IST

[6] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/bishops-council-aidwa-concerned-over-judges-remark-on-christian-run-institutions/article29164589.ece

[7] Barandbench, Madras High Court withdraws comments on Christian Educational Institutions, Meera Emmanuel August 20 2019.

[8] https://barandbench.com/madras-high-court-withdraws-comment-on-christian-run-institutions/

[9] United Christian news, Christian leaders upset by Indian judge’s comments, reporter, New Delhi , India , August 20, 2019.

[10] https://www.ucanews.com/news/christian-leaders-upset-by-indian-judges-comments/85910

Alleged conversion of Vaiko to Christianity, the revelation of controversial evangelist Mohan Lazarus and denial by the Periyarist V. Gopalsamy!

November 9, 2017

Alleged conversion of Vaiko to Christianity, the revelation of controversial evangelist Mohan Lazarus and denial by the Periyarist V. Gopalsamy!

Vaiko converted, Lazaraus claimed, The Hindu 08-11-2017

Murderers, dupers and unbelievers converted to Christianity!: Many Christian pastors have been accused of forcefully converting people of other faith, sometimes with stories of the eternal fire of damnation and sometimes with the lure of freebies[1]. But what came as a shock to many was the news of MDMK chief Vaiko’s conversion to Christianity, thus reported Asianet Newsable[2]. But, the reality has been none bothered about it, as Indians know the religious deceptions, pious frauds and divine scams have been going on behind such propaganda. As for as people of Tamilnadu are concerned, they know very well popular and notorious ones like A. V. M. Rajan[3] to Auto Shankar[4] (1954-1995) were converted to Christianity. Actually, Rajan was converted reportedly, as he was having some financial problems. As for as Auto Shankar is concerned, it is well knon that he was a hard-core criminal, rapist and killer of several women, thus, he was hanged. Ironically, the Christians caught hold of him before hanging, converted and promised heaven! It is not known, as to whether the inhuman murderer had gone to hell or “Christian heaven”! In any case, the conversion has not been any grace or honour brought to them or to their religion Christianity.

AVM Rajan and Auto Shankar converted

The conversion news coming out through Social media and media also: Now, news has come out in the mdia explicitly that Vaiko has been converted to Christianity and it has been revealed by one evangelist Mohan C. Lazarus. The videos revealing the conversion and Vaiko attending midnight mass and appreciating Christianiy like a preacher quoting Biblical verses have been in circulation for the last two weeks. Therefore, it was neccecitated Vaiko to clarify his position. The evangelist has been controversial with his rude way of criticizing Modi and ruling BJP. In vernacular media, his controversial acts have also been reported, but, he denied. Now, also, no secularist or Dravidian ideologist has come forward to criticize, analyze or condemn the conversion, alleged conversion, denial etc., in the context.

Mohan Lazarus claims Vaiko family converted

Mohan C Lazarus declares that Vaiko has been converted and he is a Christian!: Vaiyapuri Gopalsamy, also known as Vaiko is the founder and General Secretary of the Marumalarchi Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (MDMK), a political party active mainly in the state of Tamil Nadu. The claim of Vaiko converting to Christianity was first made by one of Tamil Nadu’s prominent evangelists Mohan C Lazarus. He also claimed in a video that is being widely circulated on social media that Vaiko was reading the Bible twice a day and regularly visits the Church along with his family. They have been baptized. Lazarus also said that Vaiko’s entire family had converted to Christianity. “His daughter and son-in-law are Christians. They are in the US, and every Sunday, they do the service of God. His wife is a Christian. Since he is in public life, he is not able to announce his new faith. He told me that he was reading Bible two times a day and asked me how to pray and I taught him,” Lazarus claimed in the video[5]. He could have produced the baptism certificate issued for Vaiko.

Vaiko converted to Christianity-09-11-2017-Asianet Newsable

Can any evangelist declare that any Dravidian leader has been converted and become a Christian?: Responding to a recent video of Lazarus, in which he states that Vaiko and his family have undergone baptism and converted to Christianity, MDMK deputy general secretary Mallai Sathya said that Vaiko has not made any announcement of getting converted into Christianity[6]. How then, Lazarus could declare so openly? Speaking to News Today, he said that Vaiko is a secular leader, who is genuinely interested in knowing about all religions. “He reads Quran, Bible and Bhagavad Gita to know about them and gain knowledge. This does not mean that he has converted to one particular religion. He is an atheist leader and will continue to be so,” he added[7]. Sathya said that people use his name for their own benefits and we do not take this seriously.  ‘We cannot go behind everyone who uses Vaiko’s name,’ he added. According to Lazarus, Vaiko’s daughter and son in law who live in US are engaged in Christian evangelist work.

Vaiko converted, Lazaraus claimed, News Today 08-11-2017

Vaiko’s reply has not been straight to deny: However, Vaiko has refuted Lazarus’ claims, saying that he hasn’t converted. “I am not a Christian. I respect all religions and my daughter-in-law has a pooja room in which you can see images of all Gods,” he told The Hindu. It was a result of his over-enthusiasm. It’s me and my brother who regularly contribute to the maintenance of the Vinayagar temple in my village,” he further said. He need not explain in this way apologetically, instead of refuting directly. Vaiko said that he had taken up the issue with Lazarus himself as such statements could have serious consequences[8]. He clarified that his daughter had married a Christian and there was no truth in the claim of Mr. Lazarus about others[9]. In Tamil media, he reportedly said that the speech of Lazarus would affect the political condition of the southern districts. So can Vaiko claim that even after becoming a Christian, instead of telling about her, why he says, that, . “……….my daughter-in-law has a pooja room in which you can see images of all Gods,”? Vaiko has been an open supporter of LTTE and had also made a trip to Eelam at the height of the LTTE’s war with Sri Lankan Army which has landed him into a lot of trouble over the years. He was arrested in 2010 for a sedition case filed by DMK. The crypto Christians are as dangerous as the false evangelists spreading satanic news and corrupting the Indian society.

Vaiko converted, Lazaraus claimed, Satya Jyoti- 08-11-2017

Vaiko’s pro-Christian activities and support: In July 2017, Vaiko led MDMK and PMK objected to keeping engraved Bhagawat Gita alongwith the wooden statue of Abdul Kalam playing veena in Kalam Memorial constructed by the Defense Research and Development Agency[10]. Vaiko insisted that Gita should be replaced with Tirukkural. Ironically giving all details, Deepak Aswale concludes that it seems the controversy over communal politics and Vaiko is certainly not coming to end[11]. Vaiko had not only brought a private member’s bill in parliament to give reservation for Dalit Christians[12], but also been campaining for the cause[13]. With his collegue Thiruma also he has bee doing that, though, legally, it is not possible[14]. Thus, knowingly why he has bee doing such propaganda has been intriguing. Here, the double-game of all the Christian missionaries, dalit groups, secular politicians, atheist grups etc., as such reservation is legally impossible, as the Presidential Order 1950 is meant for Hindus.

© Vedaprakash

09-11-2017

Vaiko converted, Lazaraus claimed, Tamil paper- 08-11-2017

[1] Asianet Newsable, Lazarus claims Vaiko converted to Christianity. Is it true?, By Team Asianet Newsable | 09:25 AM November 08, 2017.

[2] http://newsable.asianetnews.com/tamil-nadu/lazarus-claims-mdmk-chief-vaiko-converted-to-christianity

[3] His real name is Shanmugasundaram of Pudukottai. Rajan later became a full time Christian preacher since 1988 and since then has stopped acting in movies and dramas. His wife Pushpalatha is a Catholic by birth. Following Rajan’s conversion, his family too is serving full time Ministry.

[4] Shankar and his gang, consisting of his younger brother Auto Mohan and associates Eldin and Shivaji, as well as Jayavelu, Rajaraman, Ravi, Palani and Paramasivam, were found guilty of six murders, committed over a period of two years in 1988–1989. Shankar’s trial completed by the Chengalpattu sessions court He was sentenced to death along with two of his associates, Eldin and Shivaji, on May 31, 1991. Auto Shankar was hanged in Salem Central Prison.

[5] http://www.yarloosai.com/watch/jijvZaDNDs4/UUe1Nb-N6XgLFHfGxZjIkF8A/vaiko-his-family-converted-to-christianity-mohan-c-lazarus-confirms-tamil-news-redpix.html

[6] NewsToday, Vaiko denies converting into Christianity, NT Bureau, November 8, 2017.

[7] https://www.newstodaynet.com/index.php/2017/11/08/vaiko-denies-converting-into-christianity/

[8] The Hindu, MDMK chief denies claims of conversion, B. Kolappan, Chennai, November 08, 2017 00:24 IST; Updated: November 08, 2017 08:05 IST;

[9] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/mdmk-chief-vaiko-denies-claims-of-conversion/article20000053.ece

[10] SatyaVijay, Has MDMK leader Vaiyapuri Gopalsamy (aka Vaiko) embraced christianity, by Deepa Aswale, November 7, 2017.

[11] https://satyavijayi.com/vaiko-converted-christian-embraces-hinduism-political-purpose/

[12] http://mdmk.org.in/member/mr-vaiko

[13] Deccan Chronicle, There is a silent wave among people yearning for a change: Thol Thirumavalavan, Published May 5, 2016, 6:37 am IST; Updated May 5, 2016, 6:37 am IST

[14] http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/politics/050516/there-is-a-silent-wave-among-people-yearning-for-a-change-thol-thirumavalavan.html