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V. Shanmuganathan: Was he a victim, scapegoat sacrificed for wrong calculations ? (3)

January 30, 2017

V. Shanmuganathan: Was he a victim, scapegoat sacrificed for wrong calculations ? (3)

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Anti-BJP groups not properly identified, negotiated and satisfied: TUR leader Angela Rngad said while adding, “We want to show that the BJP’s anti people policies will not be tolerated.” Stating that the protest is also to show all that the BJP’s hate campaigns will not be accepted in the state, she alleged that the party, through the Ghar Wapsi and policies of grabbing of farmers’ lands, the make in India campaign are all efforts to enslave every citizens of country. Referring to the ban on beef and atrocities against the minority, Rngad accused the BJP of being a party that actually attacks the rights of people like attacking the lifestyle, food culture and habits and way of dressing. KNU general secretary S Diengdoh said that this indifferent attitude of the BJP against the minorities including Christians is totally undemocratic while adding that it is against the Constitution of India. HNPF president R Rani questioned why these issues have cropped up only after the BJP was voted to power. Here only, that the BJP had not properly understood the groups was revealed, to cite an example based on the media reports. He said, “We suspect that this is being instigated and we demand that the BJP central leadership respects all religious communities.” It is a futile exercise to have any negotiation with these separatist groups, as they have been carrying out their activities since independence supported by the US, Chinese and Pakistani forces with all facilities, where the BJP is not a match for them.

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Shanmuganathan’s experiments with Christianity, Christians and Christmas (2015-16): His sudden praising of Christianity, Christians, their services were quite amusing, as he hid not have any experience in “inter religious dialogue”. Some of the Tamilnadu ideologists had gone there enjoying time, but, obviously misled them with their half-baked ideas and imagined details. Whenever, he visited Tamilnadu and Chennai, a coterie never allowed other friends known to him to approach him. This was openly revealed during the facilitation programme organized and Chennai. Because of his dual role here and there, he was rather confused with the inputs stuffed by the fellow-ideologists. The Church was so delighted to record that[1], “The Christmas celebration this year has got more meaningful since the head of the state the governor of Meghalaya Mr  V. Shanmuganathan himself attended  in the Christmas service  at Laitumkhrah Presbyterian Church, Shillong on 25th December, 2016”.  Of course, he had been so considerate with the Christians since 2015.  He hosted Christmas at Rajbhawan with all fanfare. He gave discourse from biblical narratives, just like a pastor / priest from the pulpit. One website[2] characteristically as “Meghalaya Governor, V. Shanmuganathan while sharing inspirational stories said that churches have shown compassion and dedication towards the service of mankind”. The Presbyterian Church was so happy, as he participated the services with Bible in his hands[3]. Whether, he was experimenting with the different denominations, or dialoging in theology or otherwise, only God knows, as some of the websites started disappearing[4].

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Inaugurated and praised Mother Teresa (September 2016): Meghalaya hosted a 4-day film festival titled ‘Mother Teresa International Film Festival (MTIFF)’ based on the life and teachings of noble laureate – Mother Teresa from September 6 to 9, 2016 in Shillong[5]. Addressing the inaugural function, the Governor stated that Mother Teresa represents the message of love, peace, enduring strength, hope and service to the world at large[6]. Underlining that understanding the pain of others is no easy a task, the Governor stated that Mother Teresa understood the pain of acute poverty. “She served the destitute, lepers, abandoned children, old people, the poorest of the poor and the downtrodden. Because she understood their pain, she was a solace, a helping hand and a source of comfort to them” he further stated. Showing his admiration for Mother Teresa for identifying herself with her love for the Almighty, he said that in a world where people identify themselves by the power they hold, or the money they possess, what truly marks Mother Teresa’s greatness is her identification of herself with her love of God. Applauding the great works and selfless services of Mother Theresa’s followers he further stated that their work must extend to all places. In August, when there was a photo of Teresa was there in the Spiritual Fair pur up by ASI, a huge cry was made and it was removed. However, they might not be knowing abut this!

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Opposition to ADSPA, Left mobilization and BJP governor in isolation: In a recent Order of the High Court of Meghalaya[7] dated 2.11.2015 passed in Writ Petition (C) No. 127 of 2015, the High Court of Meghalaya has made a suo motu suggestion to the Central Government for the imposition of the Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act, 1958, in the Garo Hills area of Meghalaya[8]. “It is shocking and deeply disturbing that a draconian law like the AFSPA is being sought to be imposed through a judicial order. There have been protests against this order in the Garo Hills area and in Shillong. What follows is a statement which carries objections to this order endorsed by more than 60 concerned citizens, from various parts of India – some whom are well respected and accomplished individuals in their fields, like law, academia, journalism, films, bureaucracy and activism[9]. As usual in letter supporting the radicals signed by the eminent, elite and secularists appeared in the media. Thus, when Shanmuganathan came, it was not known as to whether he was understanding the problems and issues involved there in and around Meghalaya.

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Tribal youth festivals etc., have been a trap for him?: Of late, he was moving with different tribal groups and participating in their festivals. He participated the Wangala festival. Wangala is the festival of the Achiks (Garos), the post harvest festival where the harvest reaped is celebrated with thanks giving to the Gods ‘Misi Saljong’ and ‘Mima Kiri Rokkime’, the Gods of the fields and the paddy[10]. For the Achiks (Garos) the agrarian activities is not only physical labour but a spiritual journey as well which culminates in joy at the Wangala Festival.  Thus, with joy in their hearts and sprint in their feet, they perform the Wangala Dance which is actually a synchronized movement of symbolic nature which co – ordinates with the drum beats. The Wangala dance is therefore a story of the Garos in rhythm. The word ‘wanna’ refers to dance and merry making and ‘gala’ refers to offering in thanksgiving. Thus, the word ‘Wangala’ means the dance of ‘Thanksgiving’[11]. Thus, he went on attending many tribal festivals[12]. He compared Wangala with Pongal. In any case, he could have restricted his program-attending agenda carefully. At every level, the intriguing point is who was the PA or advisor to him, when he was discharging his official duties. Definitely, that person must have been known to him or RSS person. Then, he must have gone into all details in the context of Meghalaya and NE complexities.

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Was he a victim, scapegoat sacrificed for wrong calculations?: He has been a genuine worker without any selfishness. As already mentioned with his hard-work he has come up. Now, the media comes out with stories that “Shanmuganathan belongs to Saiva Pillamar community (a forward community)” and thus had / have difference with Brahmin-friends and so on[13]. This is mischievous, as RSSwalas never talked in terms of caste, in any context. Thus, the “Shanmuganathan-Ganesan” variance as raised by “The Wire”can be ignored in the context[14]. Then come the remarks of RSS media incharge – Sadagopan. “But the state unit of the RSS has a different take on this issue”, as noted by the Wire, picking from “The Hindu”, at least judging by their initial reaction to Shanmuganathan’s resignation[15]. “It is an unfortunate incident… A person occupying a high position should be doubly careful to avoid such allegations, as he represents an organisation such as the RSS and the BJP,” said N. Sadagopan, the sangh’s state media coordinator, in an interview to The Hindu[16]. His response has been in fact, unfortunate, intriguing, shocking and irresponsible too, as how he could have come out with such words. Instead of analyzing the issue, one should not try to show off himself indulging in such remarks. As explained above, the different complexities, intricacies and complications involved, Shanmuganathan has done excellent work, in spite of his health. He had an open heart surgery and in soite of such condition, he was performing his duties relentlessly. He has lamented many times that though he had many friends in Chennai, none visited him when he was admitted in the hospital for open-heart surgery. In fact, he pained that nonde came to sign the forms for the conduct of the operation. Of course, it went on well. In fact, he Unfortunately, as pointed out elsewhere, the Tamil and Tamilnadu friends have not analyzed the NE complex issues, Meghalya tribal politics, Congress-anti-national nexus acting against him and informed him. Perhaps, they have not been trained to understand, though, they have been making trips to NE under different banners like ABVP, Vidhya Bharati and so on. Therefore, the Sangh Parivar should assess, reassess and re-examine the involved complicated issues and political gameplans and respond accordingly. They should be trained in the NE affairs with national and international agendas, as they have many ramifications. As for as Shanmuganathan is concerned, his good deeds would liberate from his temporary problem. May God shower his blessings!

 

© Vedaprakash

30-01-2017

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[1] http://spnewsagency.com/leit-jingiaseng-christmas-u-lat-ka-jylla-v-shanmuganathan-ha-iing-mane-presbyterian/

[2] http://thenortheasttoday.com/in-pictures-pre-christmas-celebration-held-at-raj-bhavan-in-shillong/

[3] http://spnewsagency.com/meghalaya-governor-mr-v-shanmuganathan-attended-christmas-service-at-presbyterian-church/

[4] http://www.e-pao.net/epSubPageExtractor.asp?src=news_section.Press_Release.Press_Release_2015.V_Shanmuganathan_Governor_Christmas_Message_20151226

[5] http://meghalayatimes.info/index.php/front-page/35466-meghalaya-to-host-international-film-festival-on-mother-teresa

[6] Nelive, Meghalaya: Mother Teresa International film festival gets underway in city, Sep 06, 2016 17:47, Shillong.

[7] Order of the High Court of Meghalaya dated 2.11.2015 passed in Writ Petition (C) No. 127 of 2015.

[8] THMA U RANGLI JUKI (TUR), Implications of Meghalaya high court’s suggestion to impose afspa in garo hills, NOVEMBER 26, 2015

http://raiot.in/implications-of-meghalaya-high-courts-suggestion-to-impose-afspa-in-garo-hills/

[9] http://raiot.in/implications-of-meghalaya-high-courts-suggestion-to-impose-afspa-in-garo-hills/

[10] http://meghalayatimes.info/index.php/front-page/36478-governor-adds-glitz-to-wangala-celebrations

[11] https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/honourable-governor-attended-wangala-festival-11th-v-shanmuganathan

[12] http://meghalayatimes.info/index.php/front-page/36468-prelude-to-39th-hundred-drums-wangala-festival-begins

[13] The Wire, BJP Uses ‘Anti-Conversion’ Card to Defend Ex-Meghalaya Governor V. Shanmuganathan, BY R. RAMASUBRAMANIAN ON 29/01/2017

[14] https://thewire.in/103851/bjp-uses-anti-conversion-card-to-shield-ex-meghalaya-governor-v-shanmuganathan/

[15] The Hindu, Shanmuganathan’s exit shocks RSS, B. Kolappan, CHENNAI: JANUARY 28, 2017 00:00 IST; UPDATED: JANUARY 28, 2017 03:42 IST

[16] http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/Shanmuganathan%E2%80%99s-exit-shocks-RSS/article17106406.ece

How Tamilnadu Radicals recruit, export and receive back ISIS terror for home-grown terror (2)

October 9, 2016

Islamic radicalization, Jihadi fundamentalism and ISIS terrorism cannot be encouraged by any apologia, justification and secularization of terror [How Tamilnadu Radicals recruit, export and receive back ISIS terror for home-grown terror (2)!

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Subahani Haja Moideen returned to India with the help of Indian consulate at Istanbul[1]: It is evident that the Consulate has been seized of this matter, though nothing is mentioned about the terror activities in the official website. About visa, fake websites etc., the following details have been mentioned. Obviously, they are run by the ISIS agents. “All visa applicants intending to travel to India are alerted that fake visa websites such as –

  1. e-touristvisaindia.com,
  2. indianvisaonline.org.in,
  3. e-visaindia.com, etc.

are operating with the intention of cheating Indian visa seekers by giving erroneous information and misguiding applicants resulting in wastage of time and in many cases financial loss. In order to mislead applicants, some of these websites have created images and home page templates mimicking the official Government of India website. All visa seekers should note that the correct website for filling online visa / e-visa applications is https://indianvisaonline.gov.in. Visa applicants are also advised not to deal with other websites that do not belong to the Government of India.Visa applicants in the consular jurisdiction of Consulate General of India, Istanbul may seek information on visa procedure either by visiting the official website of the Consulate General of India, Istanbul: http://www.cgiistanbul.org or by sending an email to cpv@cgiistanbul.org[2]. Subahani Haja Moideen returned only through the help of the consulate. But, the returning has been genuine or fake or as a part of terrir activities to be continued in India after training etc., have to be analyzed carefully. Therefore, how the IS-terrorist could return easuly to India is intriguing.

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T.N. terror suspect was shopping for explosives in Sivakasi: NIA[3]: “The Hindu” gives such caption, as if it is meant for amusment. Subahani Haja Moideen arrived in Mumbai after a gap of six months in September last year 2015 on an emergency certificate and returned to his ancestral place where he was staying with his wife and managed to get a job at a jewellery shop at Kadayanallur. That he could be accommodated immedyately in spite of his ISIS-terror background proves the well-supported logistics working in Tamilnadu and elsewhere. Whether the Consulate informed Government of India that such type of person is returning, wjether the local police station is aware of the fact or is he monitored by anybody etc., are totally unknown. The Hindu also simply reported that, “However, once back and settled, he again got in touch with ISIS handlers over Internet and was planning to collect explosives and precursor chemicals from Sivakasi at their instance.” He had travelled to Chennai, Coimbatore and other places to meet other local contacts in the conspiracy, collect money and procure explosives for terrorist acts as guided and motivated by ISIS handlers,” the NIA said[4]. How then, he has been given money immediately and who gave? This also proves the terror-money track existing in these states to help the terrorists going out and coming inside India.

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Tirunelveli drama with Subahani Haja Moideen (07-10-2016): Suspected Islamic State recruit H. Subahani of Kadayanallur, who was arrested by the National Investigation Agency (NIA) officers from Kadayanallur last Monday (03-10-2016), was brought to the town in western Tirunelveli again on Friday (07-10-2016) for conducting a search at his house and the jewellery shop in which he was working[5]. The NIA team led by Superintendent of Police Shaukath Ali that brought Subahani to Kadayanallur in the early hours of Friday kept him at the Courtallam police station and then brought him to Kadayanallur around 10 a.m. After checking the rented house on Khaja Mohideen Mosque Street where he was living, the NIA team also searched for evidence in the nearby jewellery showroom where the suspected IS recruit was working. The team questioned the owner and other workers of the showroom in the presence of revenue officials[6]. “The NIA officers took a mobile phone, four SIM cards and a hard disk from the house of Subahani,” a close relative of the detenue said. When asked about the purpose of the check, Mr. Shaukath Ali declined to answer. As the search and questioning came to an end, the NIA team took Subahani to the Kadayanallur police station for interrogation and left for Kochi in the evening.

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Four persons known to Subahani Haja Moideen arrested and let off (07-10-2016): Four persons with suspected links to Islamic State (IS) have been picked up by NIA and are being questioned to probe their alleged association with another suspect arrested from Kannur in Kerala[7]. They were picked up by NIA on Friday night (07-10-2016) after their names were found in the contact list of Abu Basheer, one of the six arrested from Kannur recently, police said. Basheer, hailing from Tamil Nadu, was among the six held for being part of an ISIS inspired module who allegedly conspired to carry out terrorist acts. NIA has so far questioned 11 persons from the city, who were in the Facebook and telephone contact list of Basheer and seized laptops, mobile phones and some electronic gadgets from them. All of them were later let off. The four are residents of G M Nagar area in Ukkadam, where Basheer also stayed some time back and offered “lucrative jobs” abroad to many youths, police said[8].

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The apologia of Muslims instead of condemning Jihadi terrorism: The recent arrest of Subahani Haja Moideen from Kadayanallur for suspected links with the Islamic State (IS) has raised concerns in the Muslim community about radicalisation of some Muslim youth[9]. Speaking about how such actions of a few could be used by Hindu right-wing forces to tarnish the image of an entire community, Kader Mohideen, state president, Indian Union Muslim League, said the party has opposed violent ideology wherever necessary. “The IUML has always campaigned against extremism and terrorism, weaning the Muslim youth away from such thinking. Still, some Muslim youth are swayed by their propaganda. The youth must not fall prey to it,” he said. The problem arose mostly due to the fact that many South Indian Muslim youth got most of their religious education in the Middle East. “In South India, most of us follow Islam which is closer to Sufism. The problem today is that the Muslim youth start learning radical ideologies in an extremely religious environment,” he said. Documentary filmmaker Kombai S. Anwar, who made Yaadhum tracing the roots of Tamil Muslims, said the community was paying the price for allowing its leaders to prey on the insecurities of the Muslim youth. He said the latest incident was a wake up call for Salafist and Wahabi outfits that preached a narrow interpretation of the holy text[10]. Condemning the IS as ‘unislamic’, Prof M.H. Jawahirullah, president, Manithaneya Makkal Katchi, said he was sure a majority of Tamil Muslim youth were not lured by the its propaganda. ”There is no political leader or a religious scholar in Tamil Nadu, who has supported the IS,” he said.

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Islamic or Unislamic, terror or non-terror arguments would not help Muslims or humanity: This type of response only proves the secularization of terrorism that is not correct in any context. As for as the Muslim youth are concerned, it is happening again and again. The ISIS recruitment has been well organized and the Muslims themselves helping directly and indirectly in every aspect. It is not the question of which “ism” of Islam is bad or good, terror or not terror etc., as all such “isms” are in one way or the other, ultimately, teaches “jihad” and it is the teaching of ISIS, Taliban, Jaish and other terror groups working in Kashmir also. As the following facts are known, they should be tackled immediately:

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  1. Educated Muslim youth, in spite of modernization, has been drifted towards ISIS terrorism (and other local categories also). Radicalization starts from home. Mosques, schools and colleges.

  1. Under the guise of getting a job aboard, they are recruited by ISIS and started working for them.

  1. The cellphone, social media, internet facilities are extensively used for such activities.

  1. Passport, Visa, money-exchange and other activities are also done, monitored and taken care of by themselves.

  1. They work knowingly or unknowingly (only for a short period), as they get good “salaries”, families are “taken care of” and other attractive benefits.

  1. In the war front, as they get everything, they are ready to become “shahid”!

  1. The retuned, escaped and other categories are to be suspected, as they could come here and work as spies, handlers etc.

  1. That they are immediately accommodated proves that their activities are known or they have been advised to do so with obligation.

  1. That they easily come and go etc., proves the direct and indirect help of the local, state and other authorities.

  1. International agencies, movements and organizations help directly and indirectly, for their logistics.

© Vedaprakash

09-10-2016

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[1] http://www.cgiistanbul.org/

[2] http://www.cgiistanbul.org/Important_Notice

[3] The Hindu, T.N. terror suspect was shopping for explosives in Sivakasi: NIA,
New Delhi, October 7, 2016, Updated: October 7, 2016 13:17 IST

[4] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tn-terror-suspect-was-shopping-for-explosives-in-sivakasi-nia/article9194541.ece

[5] The Hindu, NIA team searches for evidence against Subahani at Kadayanallur, Tirunelveli, October 8, 2016, Updated: October 8, 2016 07:31 IST

[6] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/nia-team-searches-for-evidence-against-subahani-at-kadayanallur/article9199882.ece

[7] The Hindu, IS links: Four picked up for questioning in Coimbatore,
Coimbatore, October 8, 2016, Updated: October 8, 2016 14:38 IST.

[8] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/is-links-four-picked-up-for-questioning-in-coimbatore/article9201843.ece

[9] The Hindu, A wake-up call for radical outfits, Chennai, October 7, 2016, Updated: October 7, 2016 17:25 IST

[10] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/arrest-of-subahani-haja-moideen-a-wakeup-call-for-radical-outfits/article9194542.ece

 

Romila Thapar, Duke University, Methodist Church or Romila Thapar, Secularism, Secular history: The Role of Historian and Social Change!

July 16, 2009
Romila Thapar, Duke University, Methodist Church or Romila Thapar, Secularism, Secular history: The Role of Historian and Social Change!
Published on October 23rd, 2007 In Uncategorized, Politics |  Views 410
Romila Thapar, Duke University, Methodist Church orRomila Thapar, Secularism, Secular history: The Role of Historian and Social Change! I am happy to know that, “The Historian in the World: A Conversation with John Hope Franklin and Romila Thapar” will take place at 3 p.m. in the Divinity School’s Goodson Chapel on Duke’s West Campus. It is free and open to the public. Srinivas Aravamudan, director of the John Hope Franklin Humanities Institute, will moderate the discussion”. http://www.dukenews .duke.edu/ 2007/10/conversa tion.htmlI am more anxious what the historians discuss there in the Divinity School’s Goodson Chapel on Duke’s West Campus on October 22, 2007!

“the DivinitySchool’s Goodson Chapel on Duke’s West Campus” made me curious to look into the details. The University claims that, “The Duke University is related the Methodist Church”.

For details see: “Duke University”s Relation to the Methodist Church”:  http://library.duke.edu/uarchives/history/duke-umchh.html

  •      Well, it is all right, bt how the reportedly Communist or Marxist, progressive, secuar Romila Thapar would be speaking there in the, “the Divinity School’s Goodson Chapel on Duke’s West Campus”?
  •      How “Two distinguished scholars will share their views of the role of the historian and social change”?
  •      Would they discuss within the Charter, bylaws, aims, and mission statement” or they go beyond?

The “Charter, bylaws, aims, and mission statement” contains a provision, as follows:

The aims of Duke University are to assert a faith in the eternal union of knowledge and religion set forth in the teachings and character of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; to advance learning in all lines of truth; to defend scholarship against all false notions and ideals; to develop a Christian love of freedom and truth; to promote a sincere spirit of tolerance; to discourage all partisan and sectarian strife; and to render the largest permanent service to the individual, the state, the nation, and the church. Unto these ends shall the affairs of this University always be administered”.http://library.duke.edu/uarchives/history/charterlink.html

How Ropmila Thapar hailing from “Secular India” is going to be accommodative, conducive and recptive to such Christians principles in the name of Jesus Christ? This makes me remember as to how the Christian Crusades, marriages and other functions are held at the “Periyar Tidal” (auditourium with big hall) at Chennai, India. The podium / stage there bear the Cross-believing Christians and the atheists, who speak against the God, scriptures and believers! Like that, would the “the Divinity School’s Goodson Chapel on Duke’s West Campus” bear the secular, progressive and sectarian Romila Thapar there in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God?

Just remember, what she wrote about Jesus Christ, when she was accusing Rama, the Hindu God as a myth:

This does not happen with the biographies of those who were known to be historical figures and who founded belief systems: the Buddha, Jesus Christ, Mohammad. Their biographies adhere largely to a single story-line and this helps to endorse the ‘official’ narrative of their life. Their existence is recorded in other sources as well that are not just narratives of their lives but have diverse associations…..”.

At that time, I had responded as follows:

Their biographies adhere largely to a single story-line and this helps to endorse the ‘official’ narrative of their life.Why they should largely adhere to a single line? How this helps “official” narrative? How “official” it could be of “their life”? Why can’t you write as a historian instead of believer here? That the “biographers” were compelled or forced to accept or adhere to a single line proves that many lines were left out. And still small number of biographers who did not adhere to a single line is also exposed. Then, what you are talking about? Majority view and minority view? Condemn the “lesser” and accept or approve the Larger”! Adhere to one-line and forget many lines! What sort of historian you are? That man Karu has become a senile man and talks differently. Do you also do the same think as a senile lady?How you endorse such one-liners? Is there any historical methodology to that effect? Which University teaches such approving of one-line biography by eminent historians like you?Do not fool Indians. Ernest Renan, J. M. Robertson and so many reputed authorities are there on the subject matter of Jesus Christ and Christianity. Any way, it is your cowardice gets exposed, as you never whispered anything, when there was much Christian opposition to screening of “Da Vinci Code”. However, when the so-called “Hindutva judgment” came out, you vociferously jumped and asserted that “We would go to Court”. Everything appeared in “the Hindu” itself with your face. Madam, what happened? But now you come siding with atheists, anti-Hindus, anti-nationals as a historian suppressing the recent past and forgetting your own past!

Their existence is recorded in other sources as well that are not just narratives of their lives but have diverse associations. So also Rama. Why then your argument goes differently.In fact, their associations differ. But, Ramayana core story, as H. D. Sankalia in his “Ramayana Myth or Reality”  that it had been there nearly for 3000 years.How “That their existences is recorded in other sources” help you to decide?

It may be noted that historians and scholars have pointed out that Christ story was copied from
Krishna! Rama was repeatedly mentioned in different literature not because of variance, but influence and impact created on the people well before 2500-3000 YBP. Was the Sangam poet a fool to record in his poem about his discussion with his army about the mode of crossing over the ocean to Lanka”. How that poet was imaging that that Lanka should have been the Lanka of Ramayana in his times i.e, 2500 – 3000 YBP?”

Definitely, the Americans and American Christian believers might be knowing about the background and the implications revoving around the discussion. So, we Indians are eagerly waiting to see as to how tshe is going to discuss within the conditions of the University and Christian belief system or she would have courage to vent our her genuine feeling as sjhe has been doing here in India against Hindus. As she has recently started supporting the atheist political party DK-DMK-PMK combine of the ruling combine (supported by the Communist-Marxist political parties from outside), we look forward the discussion to fulfil the following conditions:

The aims of Duke University are to assert a faith in the eternal union of knowledge and religion set forth in the teachings and character of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; V     to advance learning in all lines of truth; to defend scholarship against all false notions and ideals; to develop a Christian love of freedom and truth; V     to promote a sincere spirit of tolerance; to discourage all partisan and sectarian strife; and V     to render the largest permanent service to the individual, the state, the nation, and the church.

Unto these ends shall the affairs of this University always be administered

The activities of Duke foundation have been obviously Christian:

For details: click and see http://www.dukeendowment.org/ruralchurch

VEDAPRAKASH

22-10-2007.