Posts Tagged ‘mohammedan’

3000 Hindus converting to Islam in Coimbatore: A Communal drama, strategic plan or politicized agenda? [2]  

March 8, 2020

3000 Hindus converting to Islam in Coimbatore: A Communal drama, strategic plan or politicized agenda? [2]

Nagai Tiruvalluvan, Bagavi nexus Dec.2019

He is the Nagai Thiruvalluvan having nexus with Mohammedans and trying to induce SC Hindus to get converted to Islam with agenda.

Ilaveni respecting Palani Baba tomb-1

Worshipping, respecting and garlanding tombs are halal / forbidden in fundamentalist Islam, yet, Thoruvalluvan does and the Mohammedans keep quite!

Whether they converted or not?: Alleging threat by police, a recent convert Raiz, previously Ravichandran, said, “Those who are converting legally are being threatened by the police[1]. As a result, there are people who can’t talk about the conversion openly.” There are some people who shy away from their conversions fearing authorities[2]. But the youth of the area seem to be more vocal and don’t pay heed to still being called by their caste names.” However, this move by the Dalit outfit has angered a section of the villagers. They claim that only a handful of them, belonging to the Dalit outfit, have converted and are spreading rumours that thousands are converting[3]. Eashwaran, a resident of Mettupalayam said, “They have linked the 17 deaths to Islam conversion[4]. They said 3000 will convert. Residents of this particular locality are like one big family. We are not planning to convert to another religion. They (Tamil Puligal Katchi outfit) are spreading wrong news[5]. “We believe in Lord Vishnu. We will never convert to any religion. All people here are like my family. No one here will convert,” added Kannama, another resident. Thus, suddenly, conflicting reports are also coming. So what happened, whether SCs converted or not?

Thiruvalluvan arrested, Muslim speaker
Converted Muslim asked BC (Backward Class) certificate [August 2019]: Pointing out that neither during his conversion to Islam, nor during the publication of his conversion in the Tamil Nadu Government Gazette, he has mentioned anything regarding the sub-sect Labbai, the Madras high court dismissed a petition filed by a person seeking a direction to the Tahsildar, Thirukkazhukundram, Kancheepuram district, to issue Community Certificate to him, his wife and his children as BC (Backward Class) Muslim Labbai[6]. Dismissing the petition filed by Rilvan, a division bench comprising Justices R. Subbiah and C. Saravanan said initially at the time of conversion into Islam, the petitioner did not particularly mention about the sub-sect “Labbai”, which dis-entitles him from claiming the relief of issuance of community certificate to the petitioner and his family, more particularly, in the Jammath, he did not mention his sub-sect while conversion to Islam.

Thiruvalluvan arrested, Muslim speaker alur nawas

Chettiyar marrying SC and converting to Muslim lebbai [August 2019]: According to the petitioner, he is a Hindu by birth and originally belonged to BC 24 Manai Telugu Chettiyar Community. His marriage was solemnised with his wife Ramjiya, whose original name is Ramya, who belongs to Scheduled Caste (SC) Hindu Adi Dravida Community and due to their wedlock, two children were born to them, namely Harshat (previous name Kavin Raji) aged about 13 years and Harshidha, aged about 4 years. On October 15, 2012, out of his own volition, the petitioner got converted to Muslim Labbai religion from the Hindu religion. After conversion, he was blessed with the second child. Subsequently, on March 23, 2016, he had published his religious conversion in the Official Gazette. On March 28, 2018, he applied for issuance of community certificate to the Tahsildar and he sought the Tahsildar to issue BC community certificate as per a G.O dated July 29, 2008. But the authorities denied the same on the ground that they could issue only as converted Muslim. Subsequently, the Revenue Divisional Officer also rejected his representation. Hence, he filed the present petition.

Thiruvalluvan arrested, Muslim speaker jawahirulla
Court cannot order to give any certificate for caste or class: The bench said the petitioner got converted to Muslim religion on October 15, 2012, with sub-sect Labbai. Neither during the conversion to Islam nor during the publication of his conversion in the Tamil Nadu Government Gazette, he has mentioned anything regarding the sub-sect Labbai. Even in the certificate given by Pudupattinam Zamath, there was no mention of the sub-sect Labbai. Hence, the petitioner will not be entitled to Backward Class Community Certificate merely on conversion, the bench added. The bench said only if there was an endorsement by the Jamath indicating the Backward Class as Labbai, the community certificate can be issued by mentioning the said sub-sect. In the absence of such endorsement by the Jamath, the authorities cannot issue community certificate as sought for by the petitioner. Though the petitioner relies on G.O dated July 29, 2008, stating that Hindu BC community can convert to any of the seven sects of Islam as mentioned therein in the list, in which Labbai was one among them, in the absence of specific sub-sect during the conversion to Islam, he has to be treated as Muslim which comes under the Forward community. Even during the enquiry conducted by the Revenue Inspector, Nerumbur on his petition to RDO, the petitioner simply stated that his family embraced Muslim religion and that they changed their names as Muslim names, even though they published their names in the government gazette. “Hence, for the above reasons, now this court cannot give such a direction prayed for by the petitioner,” the bench added.

Thiruvalluvan arrested, DK speaker Covai RK

If SC certificate were cancelled, a Muslim can become BC!: Dr. Raja Mohammed (Reg.No.00102119) belonged to Muslim Labbai included in the list of BC-M on his conversion from Hindu to Muslim. According to clarification received from the Government, in the absence of any orders issued by the Government in respect of converts from Hindu to Islam, they would be considered as “Others”.  He was SC and after conversion, he became lebbai. The Tahsildar issued a conversion certificate and also community certificate, declaring him to be a member of Backward Class. The community certificate, showing his community, as Scheduled Caste, was cancelled. The court decided that he was BC only, as the SC certificate was cancelled[7]. So the SC converted Mohammedan has two options for reservations – as a lebbai, he can get the 3.5% of reservation within reservation policy introduced by Karunanidhi or they can claim BC by cancelling the SC / Lebbai certificate, yet claiming to be a Muslim!

SC threat to convert to Islam, Coimbatoe-praying

This photo published by Deccan Chronicle proves as to how the secular police stand to facilitate the Mohammedans to encroach the public platform and roads!

Jamath issues Lebbai caste or Backward class certificate?: First of the intriguing fact has been how Jamat can issue a certificate for the SC convert Mohammedan and it could be equated with the SC or untouchable. The Mohammedan law does not have such authority and therefore, the TN Muslims stand and issuance of such certificate is unconstitutional. Moreover, the court has rightly noted, “Neither during the conversion to Islam, nor during the publication of his conversion in the Tamil Nadu Government Gazette, he has mentioned anything regarding the sub-sect Labbai. Even in the certificate given by Pudupattinam Zamath, there was no mention of the sub-sect Labbai. Hence, the petitioner will not be entitled to Backward Class Community Certificate merely on conversion.” The churches have been issuing birth, baptism, marriage and death certificates and not caste or class certificates. Had it been there so, for converted SC issue, they would not go to Supreme Court. Of course, though, Muslims used to claim, but, they never pursued legally, as it might go against the fundaments of Islam. Of course, the elite and rich categories never want such reservation, as it would affect their interests.

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08-03-2020

Ilaveni respecting Palani Baba tomb-2

Worshipping, respecting and garlanding tombs are halal / forbidden in fundamentalist Islam, yet, Thoruvalluvan does and the Mohammedans keep quite!

[1] News.18, Over 400 Dalits Converted to Islam Since Collapse of ‘Caste Wall’ Claimed 17 Lives, Says Tamil Nadu Outfit, Poornima Murali | CNN-News18Updated: February 14, 2020, 8:02 PM IST.

[2] https://www.news18.com/news/india/over-400-dalits-converted-to-islam-since-caste-wall-claimed-17-lives-says-tamil-nadu-outfit-2501325.html

[3] With inputs from S Annette Beryl Elizabeth. News.18, Over 400 Dalits Converted to Islam Since Collapse of ‘Caste Wall’ Claimed 17 Lives, Says Tamil Nadu Outfit, Poornima Murali | CNN-News18Updated: February 14, 2020, 8:02 PM IST

[4] Times Now,  ‘Discriminated, treated like animals’: Over 400 Dalits convert to Islam in Tamil Nadu; 3000 in queue, India DigitalTimes Now DigitalUpdated Feb 13, 2020 | 11:54 IST.

[5] https://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/discriminated-treated-like-animals-over-400-dalits-convert-to-islam-in-tamil-nadu-3000-in-queue/552920

[6] Deccan Chrocicle, Chennai: No BC certificate for mere conversion, Published Aug 31, 2019, 2:28 am IST; Updated. Aug 31, 2019, 2:28 am IST.

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/310819/chennai-no-bc-certificate-for-mere-conversion.html

[7] Madras High Court- M.Raja Mohammed vs Tamil Nadu Public Service … on 20 January, 2011

IN THE HIGH COURT OF JUDICATURE AT MADRAS, DATED: 20 .01.2011 – CORAM: THE HONOURABLE MR.JUSTICE VINOD K.SHARMA, W.P. No.21864 of 2010 and M.P.No.1 of 2010

M.Raja Mohammed .. Petitioner. Vs. 1. Tamil Nadu Public Service Commission, Rep. by its Chairman, Chennai-600 006 and 2. Government of Tamil Nadu, Rep. by its Secretary, Department of Animal Husbandary Fort St.George, Chennai 600 009. .. Respondents. https://indiankanoon.org/doc/122359/

Mohammedan Shabir slit throat of Hindu Subadridevi, as she refused her love, accept to get converted and so on – the media’s contradicting reports!

May 3, 2018

Mohammedan Shabir slit throat of Hindu Subadridevi, as she refused her love, accept to get converted and so on – the media’s contradicting reports!

Subadhradevi, throat cut by shabir, vellore-TOI

Shabir slit throat of Subadradevi: A 23-year-old MBA student was arrested in Vellore on 30-04-2018 [Monday] for attempting to murder a woman whom he loved[1]. The incident took place at Green Circle here on 29-04-2018, Sunday night[2]. N Shabi / Shabir, a resident of Dr. MGR Nagar, Katpadi, and Sangeetha (name changed, as reported by TOI – Subathra Devi, 23, even “The Hindu” mentioned this name), of Kalpudur had been in a relationship since their “schooldays”. The youth was a first-year MBA student at a private education institution in Katpadi, while the woman is a graduate. Dinamani says, that both were studying in the same college, and he was harassing her[3]. Tamil media gives contradicting stories as some say they were in love for the last four years [since 2013] and some other confirm that the boy has been loving her on his own accord[4] [one-side-love]. Thus, they might be in “friendship” or “love” as usual in these days with infatuation, obsession and fascination, due to external compulsive factors. In most of the cases, it turns out to be “lust” rather than “love,” with psychological characteristics of criminality, as otherwise, the so-called lovers, would not immediately attempt to kill or actually kill such girls.  In any case, the press should have been specific in reporting.

Subadhradevi, throat cut by shabir, vellore

Love, love-making etc., growing with growing leather industry: In Vellore, Ranipet, Ambur, Vaniambadi, Tirupattur, Katpadi and surrounding areas, as lakhs of women work, mostly Hindu, in leather industries and the owners of such industries happened to be Muslims, they have been targeting them for all purposes. Many poor girls and women have been sexploited by the co-worker to Managing Director for increment to promotion. This has been going on for the last 40 years and increasing with the growth of industry and subsidiaries. Many times, they are offered to visiting foreign inspectors coming for quality checks, orders and export promotion. Ironically, from “Khajis” to “Hajis,” the Mohammedan categories have also been enjoying life without any harems. As every top industry has luxurious guest houses, many times, they turn into harems and they enjoy. Thus, side by side, sophisticated prostitution is also growing with leather industry. Ultimately, the prey has been poor and middle-class women, who are nothing but Hindus. Many times, love is used, misused and abused to trap and prey upon them and bringing to their desired plans. However, the “casting couch” adapted and adopted here is not recognized and reported, though, well-known.

Shabir arrested by the Police, Vellore- north station-2

Shabir’s adamant insistence about conversion to Islam: Police said Sangeetha had told Shabir to get her parents’ permission for their marriage. He approached her family members recently. This became a breaking point, as he violated the request of her. However, they objected to the marriage since they were from two different religions. Incidentally, Shabir has been very adamant about his religion and persisted that she should get converted to Islam. Following this, the woman asked her lover to be patient and also firmly told him that she would not get married without her parents’ permission. She also asked him not to follow or pursue her, but, he continued to harass her. Thus, the “conversion to Islam” raises many questions. Why not the Mohammedan boy get converted to Hindu and continue to love, get married and enjoy life. Or follow their respective religions and enjoy life. But the “one way insistence of conversion” exposes the dubious nature of love, untrustworthy of man-woman relationship and questioning his intent.

Shabir arrested by the Police, Vellore- north

Calling for evening meeting, insistence for conversion and attacking with knife: On Sunday evening, Shabi contacted the girl and asked her to come for dinner[5]. Obviously, she went there to pacify him or to explain the reality. After they had food at a restaurant near the Green Circle, they walked towards the parking lot where Shabi opened the topic of their love and marriage[6]. Sangeetha allegedly denied his request to marry him and once again told him to wait for her parents’ permission[7]. Actually, Shabir was vigorously persisting her to convert to Islam, for which she again refused. “The Hindu” ironically silent in the English edition, but mentioned in the Tamil edition[8]. As argument turned into acrimonious duel, enraged Shabir exhibiting his true colours took the knife out. Then, the furious lover, enraged dater and fundamental Mohammedan started attacking her with knife. This proves that he had planned and deliberately decided to attack or kill her under the determined pretext of conversion.

Cut throat as she refused to get converted-Vellore Sabir- 30-04-2018.news cutting

The parents complained twice but, no legal action taken: Angered over this, he abused the girl and took a button knife that he was carrying with him and slit her throat, according to Vellore North inspector of police K Nagarajan[9]. Shabi attempted to murder Sangeetha as he doubted that she was planning to get married to someone else, added the inspector[10]. “The girl’s family had earlier lodged a complaint against him with the Katpadi police for harassing her to get married to him. In fact, they complained twice, but, the police advised them and sent away. The police had obtained a written statement from the youth and warned him not to disturb her anymore [regarding marriage],” added the police official[11]. Thus, why they had nor registered the complaint is intriguing. They need not treat it as communal issue or otherwise, as the rights of women should be protected.

Cut throat as she refused to get converted-Vellore Sabir- 30-04-2018.news cutting.2

The grudge, ramcor and cruel mindset coupled with religious fundamentalism and fatatcism tell different story: When the grudged Shabir stabbed and slit the thraot in front of many onlookers, they tried to catch him, but, he ran away. Here, the grudge, rancor and cruel mindset of him can be understood easily, as no true-lover would do that. The “Swati-type” heinous criminality and venom to kill are exhibited. “Target, if you cannot get it, elimanate or destroy it” could be only the perverted fundamentalism nurtured by religious dogma. As it is raising head again and again in many parts of India, it cannot be ignored as a stray event. However, the public caught hin and handed over to police station [Vellore-south]. The throat cut girl fell on the ground crying. They helped the woman get rushed to CMC Hospital where she received around treatment with 10 stitches[12]. The doctors declared her out of danger[13]. She was discharged from the hospital on Monday morning. After this, the police registered a case against Shabi under sections 294 (b) (abusive language – sings, recites or utters any obscene song, ballad or words, in or near any public place) and 307 (attempt to murder) of the IPC [Indian Penal Code] and remanded him in judicial custody. Had they taken action the monent the first complaint was given or at least the second, the horrible incidence could have been avoided. As such incidences have been repeatedly happening in Tamilnadu itself, the Police could not have been docile and dormant in such cases.

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03-05-2018

Cut throat as she refused to get converted-Vellore Sabir- 30-04-2018.news cutting.3

[1] Puthiyathalaimurai, திருமணத்திற்கு மறுப்பு: காதலியின் கழுத்தறுத்த காதலன் கைது, Web Team, Published : 30 Apr, 2018 11:13 am

[2] http://www.puthiyathalaimurai.com/news/crime/44495-a-youth-arrested-for-attacking-his-lover-and-inflicted-cut-injuries-on-her-neck.html

[3] Dinamani, இளம்பெண்ணின் கழுத்தை அறுத்துக் கொல்ல முயற்சி: மாணவர் கைது , By DIN | Published on : 01st May 2018 08:11 AM

[4] http://www.dinamani.com/all-editions/edition-chennai/vellore/2018/may/01/%E0%AE%87%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%A3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A3%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%88-%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8A%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B2-%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%BF-%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%A3%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81-2911029.html

[5] AsianetNews, திருமணத்துக்கு மறுத்த பெண்…! பெண்ணின் கழுத்தை அறுத்து கொலை செய்ய முயன்ற மாணவன் கைது! ஒருதலை காதலால் விபரீதம்…!, 4/30/2018 2:29:31 PM, by ஆர். கருணாகரன்.

[6] http://tamil.asianetnews.com/tamilnadu/the-student-arrested-for-attempting-to-murder-a-woman

[7] The Hindu, Girl stabbed, youth held, SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT, CUDDALORE/VELLORE, CUDDALORE/VELLORE, MAY 01, 2018 00:00 IST; UPDATED: MAY 01, 2018 04:55 IST

[8] The Hindu (Tamil), திருமணத்திற்கு மறுத்த இளம் பெண்ணின் கழுத்தை அறுத்துக் கொலை செய்ய முயற்சி: ஒரு தலைக்காதலால் விபரீதம், Published : 30 Apr 2018 12:59 IST, Updated : 30 Apr 2018 13:11 IST.

இதற்கிடையில், ஷபீர் மீது மாவட்ட காவல் கண்காணிப்பாளர் அலுவலகத்தில் பெண்ணின் தந்தை புகார் அளித்தார். அதில், தனது மகளை ஷபீர் ஒருதலையாக காதலிப்பதுடன், மதம் மாறும்படி மிரட்டுகிறார் எனக் கூறியிருந்தார்.

http://tamil.thehindu.com/tamilnadu/article23726613.ece

[9] http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/girl-stabbed-on-annamalai-varsity-campus-youth-held/article23734372.ece

[10] The Hindu, Girl student stabbed on Annamalai University campus, youth held, SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT, CUDDALORE/VELLORE, APRIL 30, 2018 13:30 IST; UPDATED: MAY 01, 2018 08:38 IST

[11] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/girl-student-attacked-with-knife-in-annamalai-university-campus/article23726901.ece

[12] Times of India, MBA student held for trying to kill girlfriend, TNN | Updated: May 1, 2018, 14:14 IST.

[13] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/puducherry/mba-student-held-for-trying-to-kill-girlfriend/articleshow/63979640.cms